The races for the new class, what will they be? Do you think blizz will stay with lore and limit them to races like undead, human, orc and possibly bloodelfs (hey, if they can pull off pallys and locks, i don't see how they can't pull off death knights), or are they going to see to hell with lore and just let any race be one. Further still, they could just say any race that can be a pally, can be a death knight, because that's what a death knight is, in essence, a fallen pally.
I really hope blizz tries to stick with lore on this one, it would be nice to see them try to continue their little universe without straying from the path to please a few players.
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I had thought I read somewhere that Blizzard will probable make it open for all races. From a lore perspective they claimed that anyone of any race could be corrupted by the dark side. This seems like a bit of an excuse to me since some races seem to make much better deathknights than others (Humans more than Gnomes, Undead more than Tauren).
I also wonder lore wise how they're going to explain why there are all these deathknights running around who aren't loyal (controlled) by the lich king. What did Arthas just corrupt players, give them loads of new abilities, then set them free into the world to kill the scourge?
I also wonder lore wise how they're going to explain why there are all these deathknights running around who aren't loyal (controlled) by the lich king. What did Arthas just corrupt players, give them loads of new abilities, then set them free into the world to kill the scourge?
Blizzard has stated that their current plan is to have it available for all races (I can't be bothered to dig up the link but it has been blue posted). As always, prices subject to change.
And who needs lore when you have OMGZLOLEMOGNOME!
And who needs lore when you have OMGZLOLEMOGNOME!
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I think they have already written alot lore-wise to explain where these un-controlled DKs will be coming from, something about DKs created before Arthas being released into the world, or atleast the power to create them by another force than Arthas. Memory is alittle vague, please correct me if you know better :P
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Would love to know more. Maybe I'll reread the official blizzard site again.
If created before Arthas it brings up even more questions like where have they been hiding out these past few years? If created by another force that would explain their free will. It would also explain why they have different abilities than previous DK's. Horde deathknights in WC2 were created by the orcs/demons. Scourge deathknights in WC3 were created by Nerzhul.
If created before Arthas it brings up even more questions like where have they been hiding out these past few years? If created by another force that would explain their free will. It would also explain why they have different abilities than previous DK's. Horde deathknights in WC2 were created by the orcs/demons. Scourge deathknights in WC3 were created by Nerzhul.
Death Knight draenei woman?
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Furbolg death knights.
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Posted: Apr 14 2008 at 11:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It would really suck if they made it available to every race. I mean, imagine a gnome or a tauren death knight, that would just look stupid imho
Thundil wrote:
It would really suck if they made it available to every race. I mean, imagine a gnome or a tauren death knight, that would just look stupid imho
An in-game Death Knight would probably be wearing gear that one may see on a warrior or paladin. Only tier sets would have a unique look for Death Knights...
Does anything think that Death Knight tier 1-6 will be made available?
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it might be a quest for lvl 55
Raglu wrote:
Does anything think that Death Knight tier 1-6 will be made available?
Doubtful.
Though they did add level 60 PvP armor for Horde Pallies and Ally Shamans. That's probably because they shared a skin with the 70 blue version though.
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Further still, they could just say any race that can be a pally, can be a death knight, because that's what a death knight is, in essence, a fallen pally.
No.. it's.... not.
A fallen pally is a Paladin who made a CONSCIOUS decision to switch from the light to the dark.
A death knight is bound by the will of the Lich King, and has NO say in whether or not it will become a death knight. It's not necessarily a Paladin, or a human, or an undead, or whatever. It's the Lich King, looking over a powerful being who just was fallen by his scourge, raising them from the dead, handing them a Runeblade, and making them a death knight.
Paladins have historically been death knights because Paladins are the ones who seek out and attack the scourge night and day, so you are going to see more of them as being death knights. With the offensive on the frozen throne involving all races, it is now more common and more likely for other races to become Death Knights.
So are these playable death knights people that broke away from the lich kings control.
Yeah, pretty much. And I think the scourge have developed away to stop them from going back under the Lich King's control if they get close again
The death knight seems like a very odd class indeed. But a draenei death knight would be.... strange, a male draenei already looks like a walking triangle. What will he look like when throwing around spell blades?
Actually.... I'm rolling a male draenei death knight.
Actually.... I'm rolling a male draenei death knight.
Raglu wrote:
Does anything think that Death Knight tier 1-6 will be made available?
I wish they would remove the class restrictions on previous-expansion gear. I collect lots of T1 hats from Garr.
Thundil wrote:
It would really suck if they made it available to every race. I mean, imagine a gnome or a tauren death knight, that would just look stupid imho
No, it would really suck if it wasn't available to every race. Imagine not being able to play a DK because you rolled a gnome or a tauren. Have fun leveling one to 80 just to play a DK. After all that to find out you hate both. GG~Bliz!
Your old character isn't consumed, you make a NEW character to be a deathknight, it doesn't matter what you lvl to 80 or not. Plus, DKs will probably become available when a player hits 60 or so.
CapJack of the Seven Seas wrote:
Your old character isn't consumed, you make a NEW character to be a deathknight, it doesn't matter what you lvl to 80 or not. Plus, DKs will probably become available when a player hits 60 or so.
Link?
http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/03/liveblogging-the-blizzcon-wow-class-panel/
It's in there, it was mentioned in the unveiling of the DK. You can also just look here in the Main WoW Forum in the "Wrath of the Lich King: What we know thus far" thread.
It's pretty well established that is what's going to happen.
It's in there, it was mentioned in the unveiling of the DK. You can also just look here in the Main WoW Forum in the "Wrath of the Lich King: What we know thus far" thread.
It's pretty well established that is what's going to happen.
Very established. :) It's been about everywhere. Just not for a while.
So we've not had a gnome death knight in before. Allowing them now isn't going against any lore. It's just not happened yet. Unless you've seen something where it states that only certain races could ever be death knights?
You're asking them to not stray to pleaser "a few players"... I think you would be a member of "the few" in this case.
FangXLR wrote:
I really hope blizz tries to stick with lore on this one, it would be nice to see them try to continue their little universe without straying from the path to please a few players.
So we've not had a gnome death knight in before. Allowing them now isn't going against any lore. It's just not happened yet. Unless you've seen something where it states that only certain races could ever be death knights?
You're asking them to not stray to pleaser "a few players"... I think you would be a member of "the few" in this case.
fiercestcalm wrote:
So we've not had a gnome death knight in before. Allowing them now isn't going against any lore. It's just not happened yet. Unless you've seen something where it states that only certain races could ever be death knights?
You're asking them to not stray to pleaser "a few players"... I think you would be a member of "the few" in this case.
Exactly, this is what I was trying to say earlier. People keep mixing up death knight with "Fallen Undead Paladin" this isn't the case. It's just a fallen warrior (not the class... just a combatant) who was raised from the dead by the Lich King and given a Runeblade. The only one who didn't have to go through this was Arthas, since he got Frostmourne. Although it did kind of kill him and reanimate him, just a lot more smoothly. His type switched from human to undead all of a sudden.
It doesn't matter if you're a paladin, a mage, a priest, or a dairy farmer. If the Lich King deems you worthy, he makes you a Death Knight. Historically humans have mostly become death knights because they were the ones mainly fighting the scourge up in Northrend. BEs fought them for a while, then they left and hung out with Illidan instead, that's why you don't see many of them.
Now that there is going to be an offensive against Arthas, you can see how more of the races/classes can become Lich Kings because they will now have the opportunity to. When you make that gnome DK, you are assuming a character after it has already been killed and reanimated as a DK.
Just showing my lack of lore knowledge, Oops.
Edited, Apr 17th 2008 2:45pm by Rasen
Edited, Apr 17th 2008 2:45pm by Rasen
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cap jack seems to know alot :D
sheepliver wrote:
cap jack seems to know alot :D
Too much for my own good >.>
Cap, where did you get your facts?
Years after the destruction of Draenor, the immensely powerful Lich King created a new breed of death knights: malevolent, rune-wielding warriors
of the Scourge. The first and greatest of these was Prince Arthas Menethil, once a mighty paladin of the Silver Hand, who sacrificed his soul to claim the runeblade Frostmourne in a desperate bid to save his people.
Unlike Gul'dan's death knights, modern death knights consist mainly of paladins who lost their faith and pledged their souls to the Lich King in exchange for the promise of immortality. Death knights who fall in battle are soon raised again to continue in their master's service.
The source is
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/features/deathknight/lore.xml
"Paladins who lost their faith and pledged their souls to the Lich King..."
Blizzard Site wrote:
Years after the destruction of Draenor, the immensely powerful Lich King created a new breed of death knights: malevolent, rune-wielding warriors
of the Scourge. The first and greatest of these was Prince Arthas Menethil, once a mighty paladin of the Silver Hand, who sacrificed his soul to claim the runeblade Frostmourne in a desperate bid to save his people.
Unlike Gul'dan's death knights, modern death knights consist mainly of paladins who lost their faith and pledged their souls to the Lich King in exchange for the promise of immortality. Death knights who fall in battle are soon raised again to continue in their master's service.
The source is
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/features/deathknight/lore.xml
"Paladins who lost their faith and pledged their souls to the Lich King..."
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