A note to anyone planning to respec to resto...Follow

Just because 2 levels from now you're going to be a healer, does NOT mean you get to roll against the party's healer on healing gear.

This:
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=11783;source=live

is HEALING gear. For the healer to use. You know, the same healer that's kept you alive through those massive pulls, burned every cooldown she has to keep mana up, and gone through 30 drinks and 4 potions in a single run. The healer who is effin' SQUISHY because she has to rely on cloth healing gear because of ninja bastards who roll need on mail healing and healing/spelldamage gear.

Ninja bastards who could be questing in OL already while the healer still has levels to go.

Gah.

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Edited, Apr 11th 2008 6:17pm by isyris

Edited, Apr 11th 2008 6:30pm by isyris

the OP meant that she CAN use mail, but is reduced to using cloth because ninja bastards, that r gonna spec resto "someday", keep needing on the healing gear she needs...which sucks, btw

QQ moar.

No offense, but if the person is overleveled for the insatnce, which it would seem if they are "able to quest in Outland" while you are not, then your gripe that "they aren't specced to heal" is pointless.

They took the time to come on the run and they have a right to roll on any gear they can use.

You might have had me agreeing with you if you had said that mail waist piece was useless to them because it would be replaced within a level or 2 in Outland.

Otherwise....

QQ moar.

I agree with you and Ozone. If you're the healer, you devoted time to keeping this guy alive, then you have the right to the piece of gear before he does. That'd be like a Druid getting a Devout or Hallowed set piece before the Priest does.

Now, if I already had said piece of gear, I'd have no problem if the said person got it so long as they planned to use it. However, need comes before greed. That was definitely a greed, not a need.

Also, a thing to point out, if you are looking for a specific piece of equipment in an instance, it goes a long way to point that out at the start of the group. If there are any objections, then they get settled before it becomes a problem later. That way, it's unquestionable who gets what.

I have a gripe with that comment. My Druid, who is currently Feral, plans to respec to Restoration somewhere in the future once he has enough healing gear. If he's not allowed to roll on any healing gear while in instances, how is he going to accumulate enough healing gear to switch to healing so that he might be eligible to roll for your precious healing gear?

Do you see how the paradox almost made me explode there?

My humble opinion: I think that if healing gear drops, the HEALER needs it, and no one else is spec'ed for healing, the HEALER should get the item without a doubt. I dont care if you want it because ur going resto/holy/whatever in a near future, the healer NEEDS it and you WANT it. You are greedy, then friggin' greed it.

As i leveled my druid (feral) i rolled for healing gear that healers DIDN'T need. that way i managed to get a whole set of healing gear so its not that hard (rings and everything).

Doing SV once, a healing staff dropped (forgot the name), the healer needed and then a WARLOCK needed too because his friggin' ALT MIGHT need it! WHAT THE HELL?! It wasn't even my problem and I left the group anyways, I can't deal with such inconsiderate, selfcentered people. On top of that the lock got the staff and the healer didn't wich was a good improvement for him.

Im with the OP on this one -

For the people who are too lazy to level resto/holy spec, sorry dont roll on my gear or I will flip out!

You were lazy enough to go the easy route instead of learning how to heal properly through your game/group experience.

I dont think that people understand how much of a pain in the butt it is to level resto/holy.

You wanna play my resto shaman trying to kill a same level mob? It takes me 2 minutes to kill one person. People are easily respawning before I move on to the next area. If I would have played elemental or enchancement then It wouldnt have been a problem, but since I took the time to level my character resto and heal you... ahh forget it.

People have no respect for anyone, your healer is gimped, lend them a helping hand, dont hinder them.

I'm with OP. Couple of nights ago a blue healing neck dropped in AC and my finger instinctively poised over the need button. I'm a feral now but might dabble in resto soon and my heal set, assembled through quest rewards, lacks a neckpiece. Then I saw that our holy/disc priest who'd kept me alive through the run hit need. I passed and felt much better about myself.

If you state going into the run that you're about to respec and you're here farming heal (or spell dmg or whatever) gear then it's a different story.

I see how the OP meant it now. "Don't roll on the healer's gear if the healer would benefit more from it," right? The way I read it, it was "don't roll on healing gear if you're not a healer."

I blame my nationality, the dictionary, the coffee, the lack of coffee and the weather. Because I can. Truth is, I should've read it twice before commenting.

This!



and to the OP, I feel for you. I leveled (and currently remain Resto) and I know how very rare mail healing gear drops Pre-TBC.

LOL @ gear before outlands.

I was like that on my first toon. Then I got to outlands and was like WOW, that was an utter waste of time and effort in trying to gear myself. Then my second toon, I was like WHATEVER. The gear is crap before outlands anyways unless you have epics... which will be roughly on par with outland quest crap.

You'll laugh at yourself for even worrying over gear from any instance pre-outlands. Of course, you should really laugh at the person who said they need it for an off-spec, when they'll be fully geared resto in like 6 quests from outlands anyways (ok maybe a few more than 6, but you get the idea).

Sorry it happened, but it's a game and people are selfish. :/ It's sad but true.



Um easily? LOL How many healers wear leather? Well, three CAN wear leather but only 1 generally wears it. Most Shammies prefer mail healing items, most pallies prefer plate healing items. Unless it is a significant upgrade for a shaman or paladin, only a druid would generally need.

Also, most outland quests have 1 item of plate, 1 of mail, 1 of leather, and 1 of cloth. Said item is usually melee dps, caster dps, healing, or tank. So, every quest you complete usually has only 1 item of gear you'd want to wear (mail for shaman, leather for druid... whatever). And it has a 33% chance to be for your spec (unless you are a non-hybrid) and a large percent chance to be for an off-spec. SOOOOO if you complete your quests, you will end up with a full set for an off-spec.

I had a full set for Resto (obviously being resto shaman), enhancement, and elemental. I'm a pack rat and just started clearing all that crap gear because I know I won't respec away from resto unless some miracle happens. It really isn't that hard to get gear for off-specs.

Edited, Apr 24th 2008 11:44am by Jiade

It was a druid asking about how they could possibly gear for resto without lotting in instances on gear.

1. Priests can only wear cloth, so ... healing leather gear would only be wanted by druids, shamans, and paladins. Spirit is LOL for Shamans and most leather healing gear ALSO has spirit (at the expense of stam/int normally) making it less desirable for a shaman. Paladins usually don't want that big of a hit in their armor and generally prefer MP/5 over spirit because of FoL spam.

For instance, when I saw a leather healing item drop... I'd groan because unless it was a significant upgrade for me, I'd pass. A lot of gear is more of a side-step than an upgrade compared to quest gear from outlands. I passed a decent amount of healing leather gear in my instance runs which druids were more than happy to scoop up for off spec or because they planned on changing to resto soon.

2. Assuming he takes gear for his current spec from a quest, only a portion of quests give rewards that are both leather and for his current spec (Feral). This means the OTHER quests almost always give other leather options (yes there are exception) meaning they are built for Balance or Resto Druids.

I got so much gear for my shaman for other specs that I had pretty darn good gear for an off-spec while leveling. The only trouble I've seen Feral druids run into is finding gear for tanking (defense, stam, armor, avoidance) because most melee-type leather gear is aimed more towards rogues and dps which is fine for feral in cat form but not so good for tanking in dire bear.

Edited, Apr 24th 2008 4:46pm by Jiade

Wrong. while we benefit more from mp5, spirit is still goo to have. Since you know, spirit = mp5?