Ugh, yeh 30k armour is a lot, 87 is a drop in the ocean, i see your point.
/sigh. Time for another respec and im only lv17, way to plan ahead lol.
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Got together the 5 gold for another respec finally, server shutdown just kicked off so i can't do it until tomorrow tho ><
Not going to put any talents in any tree until im sure what im gonna do, this respeccing is getting expensive and depressing ^^ OCD FTW LOL
Lv18 now, just finishing up the last few quests in Auberdine/Darkshore still.
Need some help with a macro if anyone can help me out please...
Want to bind "bear form" to a button on the keyboard, not sure if it's possible but let me know.
Edited, Apr 15th 2008 11:04pm by mathewgurney
Not going to put any talents in any tree until im sure what im gonna do, this respeccing is getting expensive and depressing ^^ OCD FTW LOL
Lv18 now, just finishing up the last few quests in Auberdine/Darkshore still.
Need some help with a macro if anyone can help me out please...
Want to bind "bear form" to a button on the keyboard, not sure if it's possible but let me know.
Edited, Apr 15th 2008 11:04pm by mathewgurney
Hmm, can't find how to bind a macro to a button on the keyboard anwhere.
I'm hoping that it's not impossible and that im just missing something obvious in the info.
Checked macro sticky here, macro section at the wow wiki, and all posts with title including word "macro" going back 10 pages.
Can't find this info. Please assist.
Damnit i could write you a smphony in macro's on FFxi, feel like a total noob cripple on WoW :D
I'm hoping that it's not impossible and that im just missing something obvious in the info.
Checked macro sticky here, macro section at the wow wiki, and all posts with title including word "macro" going back 10 pages.
Can't find this info. Please assist.
Damnit i could write you a smphony in macro's on FFxi, feel like a total noob cripple on WoW :D
You drag its icon from the macros menu to your ability bar, same way you would a spell from your spellbook.
mathewgurney wrote:
Spent the last hour wandering around wellspring lake trying to find lady sathra the spider nm for "tears of the moon" quest
OK, Im here to shed some enlightenment.
Quite probably the best thing you can do for your WoW experience is to download the Questhelper add-on. ***** everything else for the time being. Not any type of cheat or such, but shows you on your map the areas in which your quests are located. If you have multiple quests in a certain area, it shows you suggested routes to complete them in the most efficient way.
I installed about a month ago and wish I knew about it at lower levels. Sure many in these forums would agree. Anyways:
http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9924/
Selebrin
Thanks i know i can move a macro into my action bar and use it with the number keys but is it possible to bind it to a key thats not a number. For example i was thinking of having bear,cat,aqua,travel,flying forms all bound next to each other on the "y,u,i,o and p" keys.
Ozone
Wouldn't using that app kinda take the fun/challenge out of playing through the game blind for the first time ? Sounds like something i'd use maybe my second time around to get a new character thru the early BS quickly tho.
........
Decided what i'm going to do BTW with regard to talents lol, found an excellent webpage to test out talent builds on. After realising i only had 61 talent points to work with and trying to split them equally between two/three trees i realised finally it's really only effective to go one tree at once.
I'm gonna be mostly soloing and ambushing stray horde folks on a PVP server so i think cat will be fun, not gonna take this character too seriously until endgame. Gotta play the game thru once to really learn what it's all about. I'll get all hardcore and pimp next time around with a blood elf.
So to cut it short i decided to go pure feral cat dps "***** the fat old bear", and play balance/resto on another character maybe.
So if ur horde watch out, coz that flicker in the corner of ur eye is a big nasty feline dropping off a branch to wrap it's talons round your face and eat your brain MWUAHAHAHAHAH RAWR.
Well, that's the plan, I'll probly get owned by said hordy but if i'm stoned enough it'll still be fun anyway :D
So, i'm gonna go play and stop obsessing over talents now, i'll post back when i get to the horribly complicated stuff later on that i don't even want to think about yet :p
Thanks i know i can move a macro into my action bar and use it with the number keys but is it possible to bind it to a key thats not a number. For example i was thinking of having bear,cat,aqua,travel,flying forms all bound next to each other on the "y,u,i,o and p" keys.
Ozone
Wouldn't using that app kinda take the fun/challenge out of playing through the game blind for the first time ? Sounds like something i'd use maybe my second time around to get a new character thru the early BS quickly tho.
........
Decided what i'm going to do BTW with regard to talents lol, found an excellent webpage to test out talent builds on. After realising i only had 61 talent points to work with and trying to split them equally between two/three trees i realised finally it's really only effective to go one tree at once.
I'm gonna be mostly soloing and ambushing stray horde folks on a PVP server so i think cat will be fun, not gonna take this character too seriously until endgame. Gotta play the game thru once to really learn what it's all about. I'll get all hardcore and pimp next time around with a blood elf.
So to cut it short i decided to go pure feral cat dps "***** the fat old bear", and play balance/resto on another character maybe.
So if ur horde watch out, coz that flicker in the corner of ur eye is a big nasty feline dropping off a branch to wrap it's talons round your face and eat your brain MWUAHAHAHAHAH RAWR.
Well, that's the plan, I'll probly get owned by said hordy but if i'm stoned enough it'll still be fun anyway :D
So, i'm gonna go play and stop obsessing over talents now, i'll post back when i get to the horribly complicated stuff later on that i don't even want to think about yet :p
this might help mat:
My preferred first 27 levels of druidic talenting
theres a lot thats open there, but thats on purpose. this just highlights what i think are the best initial talents to get, and theres a specific way to get them.
the first thing you want to aim for is 2/2 feral swiftness. this serves two purposes: first, its more survivability in cat and bear forms thanks to the extra dodge. secondly and most importantly, its a 30% move speed bonus at level 21. that cuts down on travel time IMMENSELY.
after that, at level 22, i nab feral charge, because its a VERY useful skill to have, and the only interrupt a druid has available (vital to beating casters that heal in the low levels). however, feral charge is kinda gimp when you first enter bear, since you have no rage. thats why the next 5 levels are dedicated to getting 5/5 furor. so when youre fighting that healer and he winds up a nice fat heal, you can flash into bear, back off a few yards, interrupt it with feral charge, smack him with bash once the lockdown period ends (4 seconds) and then swap back to cat while its stunned to finish it.
its also awesome in pvp, because it gives you the security of an instant bash or feral charge anytime you need it, which is key to surviving and winning.
after getting 5/5 furor, you fill out the rest of feral. at 50, you spend the G and respec to full feral (to get mangle) and then fill out 5/5 furor and begin your climb to omen of clarity in resto, grabbing 5/5 naturalist on the way).
now, if youre not into pvp, and you want to avoid the respec cost, you can just go straight down to mangle. but ive never leveled on a non-pvp server, and i like to be battle ready at all times if possible, so that governs my speccing decisions.
youre right about the general idea behind speccing; you WANT to go deep into one talent tree. being a balance/feral/resto hybrid means you pretty much suck at everything. or, to put it a nicer way, you find your "ceiling" in each role to be much lower. with a few rare exceptions, the best builds will generally have at least 31 points in a single talent tree, and typically 11-20 points in a secondary tree with the remainder in the primary tree or divided between the primary and tertiary trees.
for some speccing reference, here are a few common builds for the druid class:
cookie cutter resto druid arena spec
deep balance dps
feral tanking build
note how all of them have at least 41 points in a single tree, with support talents picked up in the other trees (which in 2/3 of the cases, the spec is limited to just those two trees, not a third one).
i dont think there has been an effect "tri-spec" build since before the xpac came out (21/8/21+1 rogues). anything that dips into all three talent trees will have a very minor focus (under 10 points) in the tertiary tree.
My preferred first 27 levels of druidic talenting
theres a lot thats open there, but thats on purpose. this just highlights what i think are the best initial talents to get, and theres a specific way to get them.
the first thing you want to aim for is 2/2 feral swiftness. this serves two purposes: first, its more survivability in cat and bear forms thanks to the extra dodge. secondly and most importantly, its a 30% move speed bonus at level 21. that cuts down on travel time IMMENSELY.
after that, at level 22, i nab feral charge, because its a VERY useful skill to have, and the only interrupt a druid has available (vital to beating casters that heal in the low levels). however, feral charge is kinda gimp when you first enter bear, since you have no rage. thats why the next 5 levels are dedicated to getting 5/5 furor. so when youre fighting that healer and he winds up a nice fat heal, you can flash into bear, back off a few yards, interrupt it with feral charge, smack him with bash once the lockdown period ends (4 seconds) and then swap back to cat while its stunned to finish it.
its also awesome in pvp, because it gives you the security of an instant bash or feral charge anytime you need it, which is key to surviving and winning.
after getting 5/5 furor, you fill out the rest of feral. at 50, you spend the G and respec to full feral (to get mangle) and then fill out 5/5 furor and begin your climb to omen of clarity in resto, grabbing 5/5 naturalist on the way).
now, if youre not into pvp, and you want to avoid the respec cost, you can just go straight down to mangle. but ive never leveled on a non-pvp server, and i like to be battle ready at all times if possible, so that governs my speccing decisions.
youre right about the general idea behind speccing; you WANT to go deep into one talent tree. being a balance/feral/resto hybrid means you pretty much suck at everything. or, to put it a nicer way, you find your "ceiling" in each role to be much lower. with a few rare exceptions, the best builds will generally have at least 31 points in a single talent tree, and typically 11-20 points in a secondary tree with the remainder in the primary tree or divided between the primary and tertiary trees.
for some speccing reference, here are a few common builds for the druid class:
cookie cutter resto druid arena spec
deep balance dps
feral tanking build
note how all of them have at least 41 points in a single tree, with support talents picked up in the other trees (which in 2/3 of the cases, the spec is limited to just those two trees, not a third one).
i dont think there has been an effect "tri-spec" build since before the xpac came out (21/8/21+1 rogues). anything that dips into all three talent trees will have a very minor focus (under 10 points) in the tertiary tree.
Everything Quor said re: where to spend those initial points. Otherwise you'll just end up spending even more gold to respec only to end up drawing the same conclusions. :)
The good news is, that most of the time you're leveling a "cat spec" and a "bear spec" are the same, which means for those occasions you just need bear form, you'll still be able to use it effectively.
You've also chosen a very effective tree for leveling solo, especially on a PVP server. Have fun!
The good news is, that most of the time you're leveling a "cat spec" and a "bear spec" are the same, which means for those occasions you just need bear form, you'll still be able to use it effectively.
You've also chosen a very effective tree for leveling solo, especially on a PVP server. Have fun!
I don't know if I'd go so far as calling the forms 'gay' lol.
The main reason I rolled a Druid was for the forms. After a while of playing my Hunter and Warrior... the same old toon day in and day out. I tought rolling a Druid would be a nice change... it was. I've Boomkin'd, bear tanked, cat dps, tree healing, all were a blast. Looks goofy? Sure, but that's what makes them funny. Everytime I turn into a hippy tree I have to burst into /dance.
Sounds like the OP would be happy with Rogue, Shammy, Warrior, maybe even a Hunter.
Coming over from FF11 myself, I don't miss FF, just the friends I've made there. The new jobs of Scholar and Dance don't appeal to me, and I gave up LFG for days a long time ago lol.
OP you're use to the 'Real' feel of FF11, WoW is more toonish, just needs some getting use to.
The main reason I rolled a Druid was for the forms. After a while of playing my Hunter and Warrior... the same old toon day in and day out. I tought rolling a Druid would be a nice change... it was. I've Boomkin'd, bear tanked, cat dps, tree healing, all were a blast. Looks goofy? Sure, but that's what makes them funny. Everytime I turn into a hippy tree I have to burst into /dance.
Sounds like the OP would be happy with Rogue, Shammy, Warrior, maybe even a Hunter.
Coming over from FF11 myself, I don't miss FF, just the friends I've made there. The new jobs of Scholar and Dance don't appeal to me, and I gave up LFG for days a long time ago lol.
OP you're use to the 'Real' feel of FF11, WoW is more toonish, just needs some getting use to.
P.S.
Your dream of outfitting a Blood Elf may be a bit off. If you have already started a NE Druid please remember that Horde and Alliance cannot Person to Person trade or mail each other. So if you expect to get presents to your Blood Elf from your Night Elf it sure as heck isnt going to work.
Just thought you should know this tid-bit to avoid future disappointment.
Cheers,
LVL 55 NE Crack Chicken Druid
As a bit of history
Buttersheep is the term coined by the infamous Grumpywookie regarding the Warrior/White Mage combination in FFXI as inspired by the wonderful Bradygames Guide.
Buttersheep is the term coined by the infamous Grumpywookie regarding the Warrior/White Mage combination in FFXI as inspired by the wonderful Bradygames Guide.
Quote:
Bradygames Guide.
I still have mine lol. I never went WAR/WHM tho...ever!
To quote the famous Grumpywookie:
Look at it this way...
Lets say you are a Mad Sheep. You're tough, you're mean, you put people to sleep. Now it's time to subjob.
Elephant would be a good subjob right? The whole Trample effect is a bonus and never forgeting could be handy.
Shark would also kick ***. Instant theme music there!
But do you choose these? no. you chose:
Butterfly.
You are so pretty now. So delcate. People look at you and go MASH MASH MASH MASH!!! YOU DIE NOW YOU SHEEP BUTERFLY! MUH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Me.. I'd sub Walrus. LVL 10 you get BIG F***ING TEETH!
Look at it this way...
Lets say you are a Mad Sheep. You're tough, you're mean, you put people to sleep. Now it's time to subjob.
Elephant would be a good subjob right? The whole Trample effect is a bonus and never forgeting could be handy.
Shark would also kick ***. Instant theme music there!
But do you choose these? no. you chose:
Butterfly.
You are so pretty now. So delcate. People look at you and go MASH MASH MASH MASH!!! YOU DIE NOW YOU SHEEP BUTERFLY! MUH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Me.. I'd sub Walrus. LVL 10 you get BIG F***ING TEETH!
mathewgurney wrote:
Selebrin
Thanks i know i can move a macro into my action bar and use it with the number keys but is it possible to bind it to a key thats not a number. For example i was thinking of having bear,cat,aqua,travel,flying forms all bound next to each other on the "y,u,i,o and p" keys.
Thanks i know i can move a macro into my action bar and use it with the number keys but is it possible to bind it to a key thats not a number. For example i was thinking of having bear,cat,aqua,travel,flying forms all bound next to each other on the "y,u,i,o and p" keys.
Yes you can. In Key Bingings, the forms buttons that pop up when you get them are "Special Action Button"s currently bound to Ctrl-F1, Ctrl-F2 and so on. Change the bindings on those and you're golden.
Just a tip from someone who played FFXI for a long time (take a look at my RNG's gear--just about the only thing I didn't have was relic bow), this game is a LOT more enjoyable if you go a cookie cutter route.
Getting owned in PvP will suck, trust me. Leveling slowly sucks, as you know. 99.99% of this game revolves around being level 70, not the grind TO 70, as it did in FFXI. It's important to remember that.
Learn the game mechanics. Learn the role that each class plays as each spec. Play that role, and the game is a lot more enjoyable.
Getting owned in PvP will suck, trust me. Leveling slowly sucks, as you know. 99.99% of this game revolves around being level 70, not the grind TO 70, as it did in FFXI. It's important to remember that.
Learn the game mechanics. Learn the role that each class plays as each spec. Play that role, and the game is a lot more enjoyable.
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