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don't argue with theo, he's better than u.
nibsir wrote:
you're talking to a member of the choir. I know combat swords is the best. You just dont have to be a be a prick and a half to back up what you can proove. Thats all I am saying.
At no point will people disagree with you on the math but then totally fall in line iwth you cause you toss people under the bus.
At no point will people disagree with you on the math but then totally fall in line iwth you cause you toss people under the bus.
I don't care if they agree with me, I care that they know that combat swords is the best and that they know that they're gimping their raid to an unacceptable extent by speccing ShS.
In no way do I give a **** about what anyone on this forum thinks of me unless they're a guildmate of mine or a friend.
That should be obvious from the way I post.
I post to educate, not to mollycoddle the masses.
likeaninja wrote:
My DPS was about 200-250 DPS higher with combat swords.
If i could do math i would tell you the percentage.
If i could do math i would tell you the percentage.
Wouldn't the math just be the new DPS divided by old DPS, minus 100 equaling the percent? Thats pretty easy math.
Edit: Screwed up ma quote. :P
Edited, Apr 12th 2008 7:56pm by Mizzoulover
Mizzoulover wrote:
likeaninja wrote:
My DPS was about 200-250 DPS higher with combat swords.
If i could do math i would tell you the percentage.
If i could do math i would tell you the percentage.
Wouldn't the math just be the new DPS divided by old DPS, minus 100 equaling the percent? Thats pretty easy math.
Edit: Screwed up ma quote. :P
Edited, Apr 12th 2008 7:56pm by Mizzoulover
NewDPS/OldDPS*100=%difference
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Mizzoulover wrote:
likeaninja wrote:
My DPS was about 200-250 DPS higher with combat swords.
If i could do math i would tell you the percentage.
If i could do math i would tell you the percentage.
Wouldn't the math just be the new DPS divided by old DPS, minus 100 equaling the percent? Thats pretty easy math.
Edit: Screwed up ma quote. :P
Edited, Apr 12th 2008 7:56pm by Mizzoulover
NewDPS/OldDPS*100=%difference
(NewDPS - OldDPS)/OldDPS = %difference
Noob.
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
Demea wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Mizzoulover wrote:
likeaninja wrote:
My DPS was about 200-250 DPS higher with combat swords.
If i could do math i would tell you the percentage.
If i could do math i would tell you the percentage.
Wouldn't the math just be the new DPS divided by old DPS, minus 100 equaling the percent? Thats pretty easy math.
Edit: Screwed up ma quote. :P
Edited, Apr 12th 2008 7:56pm by Mizzoulover
NewDPS/OldDPS*100=%difference
(NewDPS - OldDPS)/OldDPS = %difference
Noob.
Yeah whatever.
Demea wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Mizzoulover wrote:
likeaninja wrote:
My DPS was about 200-250 DPS higher with combat swords.
If i could do math i would tell you the percentage.
If i could do math i would tell you the percentage.
Wouldn't the math just be the new DPS divided by old DPS, minus 100 equaling the percent? Thats pretty easy math.
Edit: Screwed up ma quote. :P
Edited, Apr 12th 2008 7:56pm by Mizzoulover
NewDPS/OldDPS*100=%difference
(NewDPS - OldDPS)/OldDPS = %difference
Noob.
Er...
No.
Here's an example:
40 = new dps
20 = old dps
(40 - 20)/20 = 1 %
That is not the % difference, is it?
You have to times by one hundred. ONE HUNDRED I TELL YOU.
Kavekk wrote:
Demea wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Mizzoulover wrote:
likeaninja wrote:
My DPS was about 200-250 DPS higher with combat swords.
If i could do math i would tell you the percentage.
If i could do math i would tell you the percentage.
Wouldn't the math just be the new DPS divided by old DPS, minus 100 equaling the percent? Thats pretty easy math.
Edit: Screwed up ma quote. :P
Edited, Apr 12th 2008 7:56pm by Mizzoulover
NewDPS/OldDPS*100=%difference
(NewDPS - OldDPS)/OldDPS = %difference
Noob.
Er...
No.
Here's an example:
40 = new dps
20 = old dps
(40 - 20)/20 = 1 %
That is not the % difference, is it?
You have to times by one hundred. ONE HUNDRED I TELL YOU.
OH WAIT I WAS RIGHT LOL
NICE JOB DEMEA
1.00 = 100% in decimal form.
I assumed that you guys were smart enough to figure that out. I won't make that assumption in the future.
I assumed that you guys were smart enough to figure that out. I won't make that assumption in the future.
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
Demea wrote:
1.00 = 100% in decimal form.
I assumed that you guys were smart enough to figure that out. I won't make that assumption in the future.
I assumed that you guys were smart enough to figure that out. I won't make that assumption in the future.
You make an *** out of yourself and your child gets Downs.
Demea wrote:
1.00 = 100% in decimal form.
I assumed that you guys were smart enough to figure that out. I won't make that assumption in the future.
I assumed that you guys were smart enough to figure that out. I won't make that assumption in the future.
Yeah, I obviously am intelligent enough to work it out because I fixed your formula for you. Your notation was incorrect, get over it.
Edited, Apr 13th 2008 12:22pm by Kavekk
PsiChi the Fussy wrote:
Demea wrote:
1.00 = 100% in decimal form.
I assumed that you guys were smart enough to figure that out. I won't make that assumption in the future.
I assumed that you guys were smart enough to figure that out. I won't make that assumption in the future.
You make an *** out of yourself and your child gets Downs.
Win.
Jesus, why is everyone so hostile?
Demea wrote:
[quote=likeaninja]
Just from fiddling with my spreadsheet, 20/41/0 yields 1131 buffed DPS (which I've hit a few times on fights like Lurker), while 20/0/41 yields only 1095 DPS, about a 3% loss. Of course, those calculation assume that you personally use all 10 Hemo charges on each application, so the real DPS will be much less.
Just from fiddling with my spreadsheet, 20/41/0 yields 1131 buffed DPS (which I've hit a few times on fights like Lurker), while 20/0/41 yields only 1095 DPS, about a 3% loss. Of course, those calculation assume that you personally use all 10 Hemo charges on each application, so the real DPS will be much less.
Buffed combat sword DPS in T4 level gear should be close to 1400dps. At least that is what the spreadsheet comes up with - the real one will be indeed 1100dps at most.
You are missing 200-300dps somewhere? Very strange.
Wytryszek wrote:
Demea wrote:
Just from fiddling with my spreadsheet, 20/41/0 yields 1131 buffed DPS (which I've hit a few times on fights like Lurker), while 20/0/41 yields only 1095 DPS, about a 3% loss. Of course, those calculation assume that you personally use all 10 Hemo charges on each application, so the real DPS will be much less.
Buffed combat sword DPS in T4 level gear should be close to 1400dps. At least that is what the spreadsheet comes up with - the real one will be indeed 1100dps at most.
You are missing 200-300dps somewhere? Very strange.
I have quite a few buffs turned off on my spreadsheet since there are a few classes that we generally lack when we raid (enhancement shaman and fury warrior specifically). Usually, my group is 4 rogues and the raid leader, a ret pally.
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
Overlord Theophany wrote:
nibsir wrote:
you're talking to a member of the choir. I know combat swords is the best. You just dont have to be a be a prick and a half to back up what you can proove. Thats all I am saying.
At no point will people disagree with you on the math but then totally fall in line iwth you cause you toss people under the bus.
At no point will people disagree with you on the math but then totally fall in line iwth you cause you toss people under the bus.
I don't care if they agree with me, I care that they know that combat swords is the best and that they know that they're gimping their raid to an unacceptable extent by speccing ShS.
In no way do I give a sh*t about what anyone on this forum thinks of me unless they're a guildmate of mine or a friend.
That should be obvious from the way I post.
I post to educate, not to mollycoddle the masses.
a) There's a right way and a wrong way to say things. You can get across the same information without being rude. People will appreciate it and usually consider what you are saying instead of put up their wall and combat it.
b) Its not so much you were giving information, it's that every_single_thread, you end up talking about how much cooler you are than everyone. People get quickly bored of those who are addicted to talking about themselves.
so there you go.
BiOhAcKeR wrote:
Would that make ShS or combat/sub (31/30) a more viable raid spec than just full combat/***?? When I did Kara the other night I was ShS, just to test it out, and I was in 3rd place right behind a very geared hunter (the guildmaster) and mage. Comments, thoughts, flames, appreciated!
there's no such thing as more viable. A thing is viable or it is not.
Would it make it more optimal? Probably not. It makes it better than it was before. If you're not having a hard time clearing Kara and your guild isn't complaining, knock yourself out with whatever, but the objective answer is that hemorrhage isn't the main source of damage, so improving it doesn't make shs beat combat.
I always have a problem with the term "Viable" one definiton of the word is workable and likely to survive. By that definition duel wielding 2-15 lb catfish with mongoose enchants is viable but not optimal.
In the same way that SHS is viable just not optimal for raiding.
Edited, Apr 14th 2008 1:46pm by likeaninja
In the same way that SHS is viable just not optimal for raiding.
Edited, Apr 14th 2008 1:46pm by likeaninja
digitalcraft wrote:
there's no such thing as more optimal. A thing is optimal or it is not.
Fixed. /wink
TherionSaysWhat wrote:
digitalcraft wrote:
there's no such thing as more optimal. A thing is optimal or it is not.
Fixed. /wink
*sigh* actually that's correct. :P
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