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#1 Apr 10 2008 at 8:51 AM Rating: Default
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Stabster, human rogue on Stormrage. i somehow let this rogue into a half guild/half pug for kara the other day.

i'll keep it short and (bitter)sweet:

1) 50 points into subtlety
2) 95 hit rating
3) last place dpser. below the main tank (me)
4) gear highlights include midnight legguards, s1 offhand and opportunist blues.


worst of all i think he was only 12 years old from the sound of his voice in vent, so i don't even think he would have taken the criticism well. why did the WoW gods curse me with this rogue...
#2 Apr 10 2008 at 9:09 AM Rating: Good
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fromanthebarbarian wrote:
why did the WoW gods curse me with this rogue...
Because you touch yourself at night.
#3 Apr 10 2008 at 9:41 AM Rating: Excellent
PsiChi the Fussy wrote:
fromanthebarbarian wrote:
why did the WoW gods curse me with this rogue...
Because you touch yourself at night.

lol

To froman: That is a sad, sad rogue. I thought I was bad, but definitely not like that. Some notes:

~ His head piece isn't even gemmed.
~ He's got a buttload of greens
~ Fairly cheap gems for cheap gear.
~ That MH ... just get rid of it.
~ He needs a whole lot more +hit.
~ Tell him to respec to combat, also, as that's the ideal spec for raids (last I heard). Or at least make his spec not look so messy.
~ How did he get to 70 without getting at LEAST revered with a single faction?
~ Any rogue with 'stab' in their name should be stabbed.
~ He's got skinning but no second profession... LW anyone?
~ He needs to enchant his weapons and cloak

And did he go in with his gear almost shot? They're all practically broken.
#4 Apr 10 2008 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
Imo, you brought it upon yourself. Personally, I don't pug Kara runs...not even if I'm taking crap green guild alts. If you're pugging people, you need to make sure that they're up to snuff.

A, "Sorry, you can't come to Kara this week, upgrade your gear/spec, and we'll see about next week" response isn't going to crush him.
#5 Apr 10 2008 at 11:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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xNocturnalSunx wrote:
~ Any rogue with 'stab' in their name should be stabbed.


i want to call my rogue CapnStabbin XD

i'm pretty sure this is the same rogue that wanted to join my guild and claimed that he topped dps in kara all the time with sub spec o.O
#6 Apr 10 2008 at 11:35 AM Rating: Excellent
fromanthebarbarian wrote:
xNocturnalSunx wrote:
~ Any rogue with 'stab' in their name should be stabbed.


i want to call my rogue CapnStabbin XD

i'm pretty sure this is the same rogue that wanted to join my guild and claimed that he topped dps in kara all the time with sub spec o.O


lol, did you screenshot your guys' run? Would be nice to show him it and say, This is a rogue (a good one with good dps), this is a rogue on crack (screenshot of him).
#7 Apr 10 2008 at 12:26 PM Rating: Decent
Ouf! You let this guy raid with you? PUGs are ok, but you gotta check people out :P I'd have taken one look at this guy and told him 'thanks for offering to help, but you're not ready man, you should go do a few instances to get your gear up'

What's wrong with OHing the S1 sword, btw? Or the legguards??

The opportunists are basically (lower quality) pvp gear, his shoulders are pvp gear too. Greens and pvp gear.. not kara ready. :P
#8 Apr 10 2008 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
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fromanthebarbarian wrote:
xNocturnalSunx wrote:
~ Any rogue with 'stab' in their name should be stabbed.


i want to call my rogue CapnStabbin XD

They would make you change it since it is an Adult website. Smiley: wink2
#9 Apr 10 2008 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
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digitalcraft, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
What's wrong with OHing the S1 sword, btw? Or the legguards??


there's nothing wrong with them per se, it's just that those are the highlights of his gear set, whereas if you look at my dps set, its highlights include Vengeance Wrap, Red Belt of Battle and Furious Gizmatic Goggles, and before i got those every single piece of gear i had was on the pre-kara fury warrior gear list (overlord's helm of second sight, cloak of the inciter, vortex walking boots etc.). i expect a good pre-kara rogue to at least have some pieces of the fel leather/assassination/wastewalker sets and this guy had none of them.

rofl capnstabbin's...... adventures XD

Edited, Apr 10th 2008 4:49pm by fromanthebarbarian

Edited, Apr 10th 2008 4:51pm by fromanthebarbarian
#10 Apr 10 2008 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent
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fromanthebarbarian wrote:
i expect a good pre-kara rogue to at least have some pieces of the fel leather/assassination/wastewalker sets and this guy had none of them.

Which should make it pretty obvious he wasn't all that good.. why exactly did you not look into this before inviting him? It's not as though DPS are so terribly uncommon that it was suck rogue or bust.
#11 Apr 10 2008 at 1:50 PM Rating: Decent
bismarckmajivo wrote:
fromanthebarbarian wrote:
i expect a good pre-kara rogue to at least have some pieces of the fel leather/assassination/wastewalker sets and this guy had none of them.

Which should make it pretty obvious he wasn't all that good.. why exactly did you not look into this before inviting him? It's not as though DPS are so terribly uncommon that it was suck rogue or bust.


y'all have me afraid now. Is 'suck rogue or bust' an adult website too?
#12 Apr 10 2008 at 2:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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I wouldn't take that rogue to most L70 normal instances, much less Karazhan. It's obvious he's done some heroics, but good lord is his gear horrible.

I also liked that he had one tradeskill, and it wasn't even 300+, Lol.
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#13 Apr 10 2008 at 4:09 PM Rating: Good
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It's always better to just be honest. You don't need to be a jerk about it of course, but telling him that there are others more prepared for the run(s) is the only way to go.

Any one of the things you list would be good enough for my group to pass on a player. If you want to, you can explain why his stats/gear/spec are problematic and offer suggestions (including reading these threads) as to how he can get ready for 70 content.

Then again, if a player like this is boasting about ruling the damage meters, "sub meltz facez"*, and generally being a tool... /ignore.


*note: I'm not suggesting that sub can't melt faces, only the quote is one I've actually seen in-game from a dooshington player.
#14 Apr 10 2008 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
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digitalcraft, Goblin in Disguise wrote:

y'all have me afraid now. Is 'suck rogue or bust' an adult website too?
It will be soon. Smiley: grin

Imagine the possibilities for WoW Machinima Pron...
#15 Apr 10 2008 at 5:17 PM Rating: Good
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Uhmm...if he is in PvP gear mostly, why does he have only 1997 HKs, lifetime?

I mean on a Rogue?...<ponders>
#16 Apr 10 2008 at 7:02 PM Rating: Decent
tBC character.

I have no idea what you mean about "on a rogue". Hee probably just hit up AV and that's all. Opportunists is from rep and the OH sword is barely any honour.
#17 Apr 11 2008 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
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PsiChi the Fussy wrote:
digitalcraft, Goblin in Disguise wrote:

y'all have me afraid now. Is 'suck rogue or bust' an adult website too?
It will be soon. Smiley: grin

Imagine the possibilities for WoW Machinima Pron...


Stop.

Now.
#18 Apr 11 2008 at 4:24 PM Rating: Good
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His name is Stabster.
That alone deserves a good looking-into his gear and spec.
#19 Apr 12 2008 at 8:55 AM Rating: Decent
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BetrayerofHope wrote:
Uhmm...if he is in PvP gear mostly, why does he have only 1997 HKs, lifetime?

I mean on a Rogue?...<ponders>


Beats me, seeing as two of my 70's are post-BC (lock's only been 70 since july) and the lock has 10k hk's and the rogue is over 5k.


This is where you call him a scrub, gkick him and find a rogue that knows how to play.

Edited, Apr 12th 2008 10:55am by Banatu
#20 Apr 12 2008 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
Banatu wrote:
BetrayerofHope wrote:
Uhmm...if he is in PvP gear mostly, why does he have only 1997 HKs, lifetime?

I mean on a Rogue?...<ponders>


Beats me, seeing as two of my 70's are post-BC (lock's only been 70 since july) and the lock has 10k hk's and the rogue is over 5k.


This is where you call him a scrub, gkick him and find a rogue that knows how to play.

Edited, Apr 12th 2008 10:55am by Banatu


I made this rogue the day TBC came out, and I have almost 26k.

/flex
#21 Apr 12 2008 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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L2 use armory.
#22 Apr 13 2008 at 4:09 AM Rating: Default
Personally I run 19/0/41, Am only 69 and wont be hitting 70 till i get all the marks and the honor for my PvP sets.

This rogue you are describing makes me sick to my stomach. Seriously, i out damage people in groups, Bg's and raids. If knuckle heads like that keep getting into Raids then people gona stop wanting rogues.

#23 Apr 13 2008 at 5:13 AM Rating: Decent
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No class will ever be completely forsaken.
#24 Apr 14 2008 at 3:41 AM Rating: Excellent
Banatu wrote:
BetrayerofHope wrote:
Uhmm...if he is in PvP gear mostly, why does he have only 1997 HKs, lifetime?

I mean on a Rogue?...<ponders>


Beats me, seeing as two of my 70's are post-BC (lock's only been 70 since july) and the lock has 10k hk's and the rogue is over 5k.


This is where you call him a scrub, gkick him and find a rogue that knows how to play.

Edited, Apr 12th 2008 10:55am by Banatu


I thought this was answered above, but if not... the Opportunist gear is rep PVP gear, not honor point.

As for the OH and the Shoulders, those aren't hard to come by. I've got the gloves and the OH with only 1613 HKs, while his is (now) showing 2002.
#25 Apr 14 2008 at 7:08 AM Rating: Good
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I understand that he is wearing reputation gear, and meant no disrespect in that area.

I also noted that he has increased his lifetime HKs to 2000+.

I guess my bafflement stems from being a Rogue, and having comparatively few KBs; when playing my Rogue, I often go for low health players, which, I know, is evil and uncouth, but effective.

I assume my sneaky, underhanded play-style is not common?

My Rogue is only a baby at 59, but I can get quite a few HKs in a single BG.

Sorry if I offended anyone, I was just curious.
#26 Apr 14 2008 at 7:48 AM Rating: Good
No offense at all, just know that there are a few people out there that still didn't know about the Opportunist rep gear, that's why I mentioned it.

I rarely ever do BGs, so I guess that's why I have so few HKs, I moreso just go for the Honor to get gear. But, I do the same as you when I can... the whole going after low-health players.

We don't need them getting back up to full health and coming at us when we're at low health due to fighting someone else.
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