Hunters + stings in BGs.Follow

Hunters, please, please, PLEASE stop serpent stinging. Just take it off your bar, seriously.

Too many times I've seen hunters use it. It is a horrible DoT, and it really isn't worth the cooldown. Change the icon on your toolbar to viper sting, and learn to throw it on healers.

Every time I see it on anything else than a rogue, I die a little inside...

It would be worth using if you had it fully upgraded in the MM tree. Am I wrong?


Not that I would spec MM or actaully get it but, just wondering.

I don't see the reason to throw a serpent on a healer. If the warrior is getting healed most people would try to DPS through the heals until someone spams "KILL THE FKING HEALER!!!!!". If everyone is fighting the warrior you can be DPSing the healer and make him stop to heal himself. The warrior dies and then you get a dead healer shortly after.

In BG's you can afford to throw any sting you want because ususally you'll have a buddy that can help DPS with you, in arenas is when you have to start deciding which stings to use when though.



Because warriors and bear tanks always worry about mana.

LOL! You're right Herb, I was thinking more about AV & AB. I gave up on WSG a long time ago when it became "Hide the Flag" rather than capture it.

I did a nearly 2 hour WSG once and swore I would NEVER do WSG ever again. I haven't.

Sad for you. The new changes to WSG make it so you'll never see such things again, unless you're against a pre-made or much stronger group that is only into farming HKs by the end.



It usually isn't only two people. There can be quite large 5v5 battles or more in AB, WSG, or EOTS. But lets face it, when you play defence, it's more of a 5v3 usually.

The reason to serpent sting healers is an easy one for me. In defending nodes, you usually go up against an opposition that is stronger than your own. People also attack the closest opponent to them, never taking a second to look for a healer(well, in regular BGs at least). So, there is a mash of people fighting it off with the defending side dieing more often/re-rezzing to continue to defend.

In these long fights, serpent sting is awesome. The attackers don't get to break, while the defenders keep coming back at full health/mana. Taking away their healing abilities is great for helping to break the charge/diminish it until more help can arrive.

I also always focus on the healers, but tend to shy away from healing pallys. Why? As much burst DPS I want to put on them, that little bubble will always guarantee they survive and prolong the fight for quite a while. They also take quite a bit to take down and are hard to interrupt with their flash heals. I'd rather send my pet at them, stun them, and try to DPS the carp out of whoever is lowest health within range.



So, in "professional" PvP stings are noteworthy, but they aren't in BGs? I can't see the logic in this, really.

Well, that being the case, until my fellow Ally's get a clue, it will still be a waste of time. WSG is still 'pwned' by the Horde. Doesn't matter why, reasons are various and many, but I get better rewards and honor out of AB or AV.



Nodal defenders need to be more coordinated if they are outnumbered. It is critical to down the enemy as fast as possible to even out the odds, this means softies first. If you have a well positioned healer as a defender you should only be on dps, going as fast as possible. If you don't, stings may be more useful but generally only in taking down the effectiveness of a tank while you down a clothie.

If they have a healer, getting them down ASAP, like Arena, is critical. If they bubble, so be it, blow through it or wait it out and target something else then back on healer. Viper may have some effect near the start of the fight but I still can't see serpent on a healer. If you have a lot of pals backing you on the defense, I think you'd get more bang out of your mana on pure dps downing their healing and/or casting.



I respect the idea that Stings might have some use in certain circumstances in BG's, I'm just never in them to worry about it. In my experience, I can down most healers faster than my sting could expend itself. Why Viper a guy when he's dead before he's halfway through his mana?

BTW, I've done AV at full O, full nodal defense, and base defense. At the moment I prefer the latter, it's a lot of fun and there's no waiting around, you can be busy start to end. AB is really just nodal defense and O, done both there as well. WSG, I had most fun doing runner intercept and tracking them down, but it gets repetitive quickly. Haven't done EOTS yet, want to though. I hear Ally's suck at it but they are learning... I'll have to find out. Maybe tonight.

Thank you. I was about to defend that reason for having it on your bar in BGs. rouges suck, and whatever DoT we can get on them, the better.