Howdy, I have a 70 tank druid with decent gear, 13.5 hp / 22000 armor. I currently off tank for kara and tank heroics and such. I also have some decent healing gear, 1100 ish +healing, 8.5k mana 120 res. (dunno bout my mp5 after patch, i haven't been resto lately).
Now I told you that to tell you this. I usualy respec according to what is needed in the guild, but im kinda getting tired of it, and the 50g each time i respec hurts. I want to have a specific character for the job. I got this pally in mid 30s, im gonna try and get him to 70.
The question here would be: when i get that pally to 70, should i leave my druid tanking and make the pally healer, or resto druid and pally tank? wich can do what better? I'm thinking druid tank pally healer, but people tell me druids can't avoid crushing blows and pallys and warrior can, or something like that. also heard pallys are the best healers? :O please help me out here. thanks alot.
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when i get that pally to 70, should i leave my druid tanking and make the pally healer, or resto druid and pally tank?
I'd make a Pally tank, and a Resto ToL healer.
Reasoning:
In ZA
I'd kill for a Pally tank for the dragonkin boss. Warriors just can't pick up the hatchlings as well as I'd like (me being warrior). A pally can tank the full side of hatchlings and not break a sweat, leaving one less thing to worry about for that fight. Needless to say that's as far as we got so far... we're still getting the number of hatchlings and the random flame the boss does down pat.
Resto Druids are awesome in raids. HoTs will help out soooo much Vs Gruul's silence, Bearboss change to bear form silence, and just overall raid spot healing. We can do the priest's 'renew' with our lifebloom, and not waste all our mana as fast, leaving the priests to stick with the heavy healing (since it's very healing heavy in those).
Don't get me wrong, a OT druid, would be nice for all I just said, but AoE secialist are well known to be Pally tanks... until they 'fix' our swipe and Thunder clap, or give us some other sort of AoE tanking abilities (hopefully in WotLK). A Druid is suggested for tanking Lynx boss, since he hits soo fast and hard thru the whole fight, the +armor and stamina helps get the raid thru the fight, but it's been done w/o one.
That's how I'm doing it. Only cause our guild has no Druid healers, and that would be a huge help... Since we have enough tanks, I can offer to bring my Hunter for dps or my Druid for heals... but for heals I'm still collecting +healing stuff, I'm really low (need about 400 more +healing I think)
Edited, Apr 9th 2008 11:35pm by GYFFORD
While the pally tank in ZA might be true, it is also A LOT harder to gear up a tanking pally then a healer one. To truly gear a tanking pally you will have to run lots of level 70 instances that no one is really running any more just to get gear to possible go to kara. While gearing up a pally for healing isn't 100% easy, it is much easier then fitting one up to tank.
So for ease of use, I would say you should have a pally healer and a druid tank.
So for ease of use, I would say you should have a pally healer and a druid tank.
Here's a nice read about Sunwell healing from a raiding Druid, and some other's feedback that might help you in your choice.
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The level he's writing about is beyond my 5 man ready druid lol.
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The level he's writing about is beyond my 5 man ready druid lol.
I have to chime in on this because I have the same dilemma: I have a tank/DPS druid and a healer pally right now.
I personally love druids as a close combat class because just carrying around a second set of gear (tank and DPS), without changing a single talent point, you can switch out between an ultra tough tank to very good DPS with one macro button-push. No other class in the game can do that. It's a tremendous asset when encounters in some instances require one or the other on the fly.
I've been experimenting a lot with my pally lately - started as hardcore ret, but have been waffling between holy and prot. I have to admit that a holy pally is plain awesome. They can solo dailies, they can take a beating, they can bubble/heal, and with enough mp5 they can spam flash of light till the cows (or is it Tauren?) come home. Prot pallies are awesome 5-man MT's and offtanks but soloing with them is just a bit better than watching paint dry.
My vote is for feral druid and healer pally.
I personally love druids as a close combat class because just carrying around a second set of gear (tank and DPS), without changing a single talent point, you can switch out between an ultra tough tank to very good DPS with one macro button-push. No other class in the game can do that. It's a tremendous asset when encounters in some instances require one or the other on the fly.
I've been experimenting a lot with my pally lately - started as hardcore ret, but have been waffling between holy and prot. I have to admit that a holy pally is plain awesome. They can solo dailies, they can take a beating, they can bubble/heal, and with enough mp5 they can spam flash of light till the cows (or is it Tauren?) come home. Prot pallies are awesome 5-man MT's and offtanks but soloing with them is just a bit better than watching paint dry.
My vote is for feral druid and healer pally.
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My vote is for feral druid and healer pally.
This. Feral druids solo so much better than resto druids, and healadins are probably about even with tankadins for single target soloing. Also, you don't pick tanks for their buffs, but you might pick your healer that way. Any blessing (except maybe Sanctuary and Sacrifice) is better than Gift of the Wild.
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Tons of info here to work with. I appreciate the replys from y'all. I think its true what Tooretforyou said, tank and dps with the same tree build its pretty handy and also flexible when LFG. And I think a pally healer its easier to gear up than a tank one. I'm still brainstorming... tough choice V_V
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Also, you don't pick tanks for their buffs, but you might pick your healer that way.
That's honestly why I suggested ToL Resto. The +spirit % healing fro ALL healers in the raid I'd imagin is pretty darn good. Blessing of Light is really nice too, but only works on pally heals (if I remember correctly), where our aura works for all healing done... wonder if that counts for shadow priest V.Touch?
On top of that, we have NS+HT which is the ultimate 'Oh crap' button for a main tank, fastest big heal in the game, on a 3 min CD to boot.... you can use it 2-3 times easy in Gruul's, and most fights. I just believe Druid healing is pure win. I read on Elitestjerks that a well geared Druid healer falls just short of a well geared shammy? for top healing. I can find the link if needed, but it's one of the billion L2Resto posts I've read in the past 4 days lol.
Rebirth when you're off tanking can be a run ender...
-Gyfdruid cast rebirth on soandso
-Bearboss cleaves
-Gyfdruid is now dead
-Only one tank to tank both forms left... reset.
In that case tree form you could cast it, rez a healer, and never lose your rolling LB rotation.
I honestly think either way is going to be a good choice, but if your guild does not have a AoE tanker, I'd suggest that... since warrior/druid AoE are about the same.
I know I have not done any of that for raiding with my Druid also, my highest pally was 25ish Alliance so I have not ran as a pally in there either. On paper it looks fine and dandy, but in real time play it might be totally different.
Edited, Apr 10th 2008 12:40pm by GYFFORD
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we have NS+HT which is the ultimate 'Oh crap' button for a main tank, fastest big heal in the game
Faster and bigger than Lay on Hands?
Of course, LoH comes at a VERY hefty price...
Edited, Apr 10th 2008 1:35pm by YJMark
YJMark wrote:
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we have NS+HT which is the ultimate 'Oh crap' button for a main tank, fastest big heal in the game
Faster and bigger than Lay on Hands?
Of course, LoH comes at a VERY hefty price...
Edited, Apr 10th 2008 1:35pm by YJMark
That's the pally move that uses the rest of their mana correct? Like I said only got my pally up to 25ish... never got to use it for a instance lol.
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That's the pally move that uses the rest of their mana correct
Yes, it is. It uses up the rest of your mana, and has a 1hr cooldown (40 mins if you spec the talent). Used for "Emergency Only" situations...lol.
Actually, it's a great heal if you are basically oom. Then, you don't really use any mana at all :)
In reality though, NS + HT is superior since it is an instant big heal that can be used often.
LoH, 60 min CD, target is healed to full (I think healing caps at your max health), you lose all mana, target gains 400ish mana at level 70.
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While the pally tank in ZA might be true, it is also A LOT harder to gear up a tanking pally then a healer one. To truly gear a tanking pally you will have to run lots of level 70 instances that no one is really running any more just to get gear to possible go to kara
true and at same time not true.
true easier to gear healing wear any style cloth leather mail plate. you shouldnt be getting hit.
not true. i ran very few instances gearing up my prot pally. alot of the good gear is quest/rep. that being said i went into kara ot uncrushable uncritable but only 10.5k hp i'd say. no heroic gear at all. kara was on farm so was pretty much there to gear me a shammy and the mt. ( he only needed a few drops).
Lay on hands heals for the palas max HP, wich means if he casts it on himself he gets healed to full. When cast on the tank it really shouldn't heal him to full, since he should have a lot more HP than the pala healer. The good thing is it uses all you mana, no matter how little you have, so you can cast it at 1 mana and the cost will only be that measly 1 mana point. If the pala casts it on himself at 1 mana point, he will gain 400 mana AND be healed to full. Pretty darn good ability
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