warlock dmgFollow

hello warlocks,

I have a warlock friend that I run with a lot and he is haveing a tough time on the dmg meters!! it is my understanding that warlocks are usually on the top or battleing for top spot in dmg but my friend consistantly gets beat by the tank wtf. we are doing 5 mans and he is almost always 4th at 13-16% dmg

I know some of the problem is his hit rating but I was wondering is there a good spell rotation that he should use or is the spells to avoid (they sound good on paper but put into practice the just arent dmg efficiant)
this is his armory
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Area+52&n=Bakhand

this is mine
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Area+52&n=Kelexian

and I am 10-15% higher dmg this should not be, right? or am I wrong?

he was destruction but everyone seems to say that afflic is better for dmg,questing lvling and 5 mans should he go back to destruction.

I appriciate any help and feedback
and yes we are noobs and are gear is not that great and you can laugh, point and make fun but afterwards please give some suggestions lol

Thank you

IMO,his spell dmg is too low.
I also noticed that he has ALOT of mana,and much "of the Eagle" gear.
Hit rating isnt much of a trouble at that level,and he got very much hit rating imo.
A lvling warlock should focus on stamina and spell dmg,then spell crit over int.
His crit is too low to go destruction.
My cast rotation is :
UA,CoA,Corruption and then some shadowbolts.

Edit:for the specc,take 3 points out of suppression and put them into
Amplify curse,Curse of Exhaustion and Dark Pact.


Edited, Apr 8th 2008 9:07am by Sejji

thank you. can I get link to some of the cookie cutter builds

again we are lvling and doing 5mans and some BG's our intent however is BG's and arena at 70 and from what I can tell it is better to go to destro for arena once he can get his stats right so I would apperciate a link to that build too for future use but for now just the builds for dps in 5mans and lvling

Thank you

ahh i guess you missed my disclouser at the end of orig post:

I appriciate any help and feedback
and yes we are noobs and are gear is not that great and you can laugh, point and make fun but afterwards please give some suggestions lol

dude his gear is complete garbage, and so is his build, i dont mean to be an *** or anything your probably new to WoW. tell him to respec afflic agian he needs dark pact, take off malediction and imp. drain soul, for the desto. part tell him to take off devistation and add to shadowburn, and in demo. spec add 2/2 imp. healthstone and 5/5 demonic embrace. For gear tell him to buy some Neatherweave armor if you want to, since your close to 70 whatever but damn..
for spell rotation i usually do
SB - Immolate - corruption - lifetap - CoA - drain life
and if they arnt dead by then just throw up another SB.
if a tank is doing too much damage on the thing and your DoTs don't have time to go off then just pure SB it. and try to throw DoTs on off targets if the tank is good enough to keep aggro.

Drop Eagle stuff and get "of the Sorcerer" gear.

Green Of the Sorcerer gear is generally better than green quest rewards for Affliction (in some instances, even better than Blue quest rewards.) Disreguard +Hit for now entirely. Rack up a decent amount of Spell (should have like 500+ with Fel Armor on), and Aim for around 9000hp/7000mp with Imp out. It's ridiculous that +Heal exceeds Spell Damage.

I know you've worked hard and gotten some nice Blue drops but I'll tell you now you'll see an improvement if you take a lot of that stuff off. Head, Shoulders, Chest, Wrists, Hands (yes, hands), and Pants can all be upgraded if you simply switch them out with a 64-66 "Sorcerer" item - they are litterally PERFECT for Affliction locks.

The main problem he's having in Instances was a problem all along (he just hasn't noticed it before because he didn't care or wasn't informed.) Warlock DotRot is only good in groups for certain situations, most of the time a Corruption (for Nightfall) and then a SBolt spam will be key, and the only way to keep up with Melee and Mage damage. 500 Spell will double your current SBolt numbers, 680 will double the final SBolt rank. Keep food and water handy, and at the end of Fights use Life Tap to even out the % of Life and Mana and then eat and drink to reduce downtime.

For Talents, as a non-70 Affliction I highly recommend you leave your talentset Grind and PVP-based: stay primarily Affliction, reach 11 into Destruction for ShadowBurn, stay off of Malediction and dont waste talents on Threat-droppers just yet. Put 1 point into Shadow Embrace.

Get Amp Curse, CoEx for emergencies, clear up Drain Soul and take most of those points out of Supression (leave 1 or 2 if you want). Pick up Dark Pact immediatly (will allow you to SBolt spam through a longer fight.) In Demonology at LEAST get Demonic Embrace.

While this talentset does not bolster the ShadowBolt Spam perfectly, it WILL work well enough if you have SM, Nightfall, Bane, and ISB and Dark Pact to keep the bolts flowing. If you want to see another Jump in damage you can switch to Destruction but once you hit 70 it will be very difficult to keep up (since you will start to need SpellHit.)

BTW I suggest Kelexian drops some of his Eagle gear as well, and picks up a Mix of Sorcerer and Invoker gear. This will drastically help your terrible +Spell, reduce some of your abnormally (and unneccisarily) high HP, and bring in some nice Crit% to work with which will drastically help for Grinding, PVP, and 5-mans.

Drop your Pants and Necklace, and try to hold onto that Witching Band, your Chest, and your Shoulders as long as you can.

Once you boost your Spell and Crit enough, Empowered Frostbolt will be worth it. You don't need hit right now since you have Elemental Precision.

This is not true. End result stats are what to focus on, not the color of the name. Of course, generally equal level greens will have fewer stats than a purple. But not all epics are better than all greens if you get my meaning.