Theo's Rogue PvP FAQFollow

It shouldn't be hard to CC a healer as spriest/rogue. Easiest way to run a warrior/druid as that comp is the following:

1) You (spriest) get on the warrior at the beginning to get the druid to pop out. You'll be doing a substantial amount of damage and not taking much due to Mind Flay and shield. DO NOT USE FEAR ON THE WARRIOR.

2) Your rogue should be staying in stealth to wait for the druid to come out. The druid usually will toss a hot to put them in combat against a rogue team; if they don't, ShS to them and sap the druid. If they get in combat, open as usual.

3) Shivving crip to the druid and getting to the warrior for a shiv shouldn't be a problem. They've both got crip up now.

4) At this point the warrior should intercept to you. This doesn't make much of a difference; he should be at less than 60% HP with dots ticking away, so the druid is probably going to blow NS on him. Regardless, put a bit of pressue on the warrior until the druid blows NS. It shouldn't be hard.

5) Druid blows NS, Blind him. Warrior should Intervene the blind to prevent a sap. Rogue should target the druid and use a throw on them to break intervene, then vanish and sap the druid.

6) GG, warrior down. If you can't get the warrior down in the span of blind -> Sap, blow fear on the druid and have your rogue vanish and sap the druid at the end of the fear.

I'd personally use BT maces, but that's just me.

Felguard is pretty much the way to go against rogues (it's pretty much crap for everything but dueling rogues), and your friend had it right. Use the Felguard's intercept on the rogue as he uses CloS to get out of your CoEx, other than that it's up to your HP and resilience soaking enough damage.

You can use a Voidwalker to soak tons of damage, but you're not going to beat a rogue full demon specced. SL/SL is the spec of choice right now for a reason.

I am running a rogue, hunter(marks), mage 3s team and we got destroyed by 2 teams so far, a sh priest, holy pali, warrior group and lock, warrior, resto druid. Can you please give any advice to help us win? What usually happened was we would cc healer(sap on pali/blind on druid when he came out)and the hunter and me would go for the clothie while the mage tried to get the warrior, except the warrior stuck with the clothie and destroyed me(or at least got bleeds) before killing our hunter while the lock got the felpuppy glued to the mage.

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Paladins have one buff on an ally, and that's the blessing - apart from that, if you know when he applies you can CC him easily by timing cc just before it expires. Paladins are the easiest class to CC in arena, if you don't count roots as CC (and you shouldn't).

All dispels (and Spellsteal) were switched to use a random selection instead of FIFO a few patches ago. It can be somewhat of a potshoot depending upon how many buffs are on a target, but if there are only a few you can certainly spellsteal them all.

That is a very good spec but an equally effective spec is restokin

Shaman/warrior should not be hard, especially if your druid is restokin. Put up damage on the shaman, root/cyclone the warrior, GG.

Watch Buddhist Carries Lewt if you want to see that comp done as all-out DPS. Lack of Swiftmend hurts you on this comp.

BTW, you can disagree based on personal experience, but you're wrong.

Druid healers are much harder to deal with than shamans on a healer/rogue team.

Yeah, it's really about timing their bleed effect and vanishing right as it ticks so you get a full 3 secs of vanish to ShS -> sap.

In thinking about it, shaman/warrior is much harder than druid/warrior, since druid gets ****** by fear a lot harder than shamans do.

Despite the fact i'm being carried to some extent, this is why my rogue partner loves me: Blessing of Protecion removes bleed effects, effectively removing one of the biggest tools a warrior or feral can use against a rogue.

Question! What's a good way of dealing with Holy Paladins in 2v2 as a ret/rogue? What we currently try is an opening sap on his partner, almost always a warr which i'll keep an eye on to follow with repentence, while focusing the paladin into an early bubble. This is where we're undecided. Is it best to just get the hell out at this point, throw BoF/BoP on the rogue and let him restealth, while i bubble at the same time, heal up, get some distance on the warrior and so on? (After which i guess, we would restart the fight with another sap to whoever looks better geared and focus down the other guy).

Or we could focus the warrior at this point, hoping he doesn't resist too many stuns, and force the paladin to choose between the warrior's healthbar or his own.

We normally stomp healer/dps teams wothout too much trouble, but the holy pally's divine shield is a bit of a wildcard.

Sounds great, thanks. Arena fights are much easier when there's a plan to stick to. Yeah, it really shouldn't be too hard. If we get the repentence > sap off on the warrior after divine shield, that gives us garrotte as well as kick, arcane torrent, HoJ to interrupt a holy light crit. Looking foward to it!

Edited, Aug 10th 2008 3:52am by ArtemisEnteri

Pretty salient thought, since in our first match my rogue partner got....shouted out of stealth!

Still managed to win, the warrior was dual-wielding which i don't think i've seen in arena before. Then went on to do everything it's possible to do wrong in subsequent matches. Break blind, overwrite judgement of justice on a druid.... i've known the rogue for about 11 years in RL, so of course ended up getting chewed out about it, and blaming him for not telling me when he was blinding etc etc (this is turning into one of Bodhi's blog posts!)

New team for tuesday night, new start. NOT going to suck so hard this time....