First off, this is my armory link...
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Suramar&n=Randyblythe
Ok, I have read the FAQ's and know the basic endgame spec, but it doesn't help me in the meantime, as I am lvl 53 and can't get all the necessary skills at once. My question is, what spec should I have for lvl 53, and what should the next few TP's I get in the future go toward? For instance, I know that at 70 I will most likely have points into MM as far as 30% bonus crit dmg, but I doubt I should take that first, then go BM as I'm lvling.I've seen stickies that tell you what to put your TP's in, but not the order in which to put them.
I have wanted to go BM for a while, but wasn't sure if the gear I had supported the build. Also, I trained a rare cat and he is still only lvl 44. It sucks meleeing stuff to death, but MM at least helps initially. I was originally thinking of going MM and SV to lvl him up, but don't want to respec multiple times, so I stuck with my old build. Anyway, as I said, I want to try BM, but right now it would be pointless, as my pet constantly misses, has low health and does crap dmg.
Another kinda off the wall question is, does BM make you feel....unnecessary? I have never tried it, but it seems as though your pet does all the work, and you are just....inadequate. At least with some points in MM, I can kill lvl 60's in AV with good size crits and all. Granted, PVP isn't instancing and group leveling....I suppose you are just trading burst for overall DPS. Kinda like dest vs affliction for warlocks. I guess I can live with that till I hit 70 and get the 20 points in MM again.
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Your armory link looks fine. You are doing just fine with your gear selection and all that. I really wouldn't worry about enchats and all that, you will be replacing all your gear in the next 6 levels anyway.
Since you have the gold for 15 agi enchants then I assusme you have the gold to re-spec. BM is the optimal spec for leveling. however you are missing some key talents in the tree. try this at your current level.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cqbh0gxRauVom
This fills out your BM tree. Next level move into MM.
Get:
Lethal shots 5
Efficiency 1-5
Aimed Shot
Rapid Killing 1,2
Go For The Throat 1,2
Mortal Shots 1-5
This will give you pet focused Semi-cookie cutter BM/MM Grinding/farming build. If you want to stay BM/MM but want to do more damge then follow the regular builds in the sticky. If you want to switch it up and try somehting else, do so. Have fun.
Pet..... What pet do you have? I understand the whole "special" pet thing. But understand that it is gimping your play. Might I suggest getting the same model pet, but closer to your level. This will make it easier on you. But again, do what you want. If you like your current pet then find some casters and level him on them. Off the top of my head I cant think of any besides maybe some of the caster undead in WPL.
BM is the best sustained damage hunter spec in the game, hands down. Anyone who says otherwise is out of their damn mind. Equal gear and skill the BM hunter will vastly outpace the other specs. MM is *cough, cough* rather useless except for PvP. You will NOT out do a BM hunter as MM. even if you take away the pets. MM has some fun talents and it can be incorporated into a raid, it just doesnt bring the raw damage that BM does. SV is the utility build. SV is where I play, i love it! However it takes way to much time and extra energy to level and grind as SV. It can be done, and it can be fun, just know that your crit chance is off the charts, so your pet cannot hold threat.
*edit* spelling
Edited, Apr 5th 2008 3:23am by rinkkel
Since you have the gold for 15 agi enchants then I assusme you have the gold to re-spec. BM is the optimal spec for leveling. however you are missing some key talents in the tree. try this at your current level.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cqbh0gxRauVom
This fills out your BM tree. Next level move into MM.
Get:
Lethal shots 5
Efficiency 1-5
Aimed Shot
Rapid Killing 1,2
Go For The Throat 1,2
Mortal Shots 1-5
This will give you pet focused Semi-cookie cutter BM/MM Grinding/farming build. If you want to stay BM/MM but want to do more damge then follow the regular builds in the sticky. If you want to switch it up and try somehting else, do so. Have fun.
Pet..... What pet do you have? I understand the whole "special" pet thing. But understand that it is gimping your play. Might I suggest getting the same model pet, but closer to your level. This will make it easier on you. But again, do what you want. If you like your current pet then find some casters and level him on them. Off the top of my head I cant think of any besides maybe some of the caster undead in WPL.
BM is the best sustained damage hunter spec in the game, hands down. Anyone who says otherwise is out of their damn mind. Equal gear and skill the BM hunter will vastly outpace the other specs. MM is *cough, cough* rather useless except for PvP. You will NOT out do a BM hunter as MM. even if you take away the pets. MM has some fun talents and it can be incorporated into a raid, it just doesnt bring the raw damage that BM does. SV is the utility build. SV is where I play, i love it! However it takes way to much time and extra energy to level and grind as SV. It can be done, and it can be fun, just know that your crit chance is off the charts, so your pet cannot hold threat.
*edit* spelling
Edited, Apr 5th 2008 3:23am by rinkkel
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Thanks for the advice. At this point, my ghostpaw is only a few lvls lower than my other pet, so it won't make much difference I think.
Pre-60, why take focused fire over inp AotH? At this point, I didn't see a reason to take it since I can't use the full effect of it yet anyway. Would it be beteer to pick it up later, or is it a key to the build? Also, is 1 point in animal handler more helpful than the 5th point in frenzy?
It's not that I think you're wrong, cause if I knew, I wouldn't have made my original post. Its just that I'd prefer to have an understanding of why to do what I'm going to do, rather than just remember what talents to take. A monkey can be trained to remember things, but I'd rather understand the right things so I choose them based on understanding, rather than memory, if that makes sense. I'm not good at mathcraft or theorycraft, so any help is appreciated. I read those types of posts, but it's still greek to me, which is why I'd rather ask someone and get that stuff in layman's terms.
Pre-60, why take focused fire over inp AotH? At this point, I didn't see a reason to take it since I can't use the full effect of it yet anyway. Would it be beteer to pick it up later, or is it a key to the build? Also, is 1 point in animal handler more helpful than the 5th point in frenzy?
It's not that I think you're wrong, cause if I knew, I wouldn't have made my original post. Its just that I'd prefer to have an understanding of why to do what I'm going to do, rather than just remember what talents to take. A monkey can be trained to remember things, but I'd rather understand the right things so I choose them based on understanding, rather than memory, if that makes sense. I'm not good at mathcraft or theorycraft, so any help is appreciated. I read those types of posts, but it's still greek to me, which is why I'd rather ask someone and get that stuff in layman's terms.
r petleveling, try to find a nice and big group of green lvl casters.
It helps so much to have mobs that dont move to level your pet.
It helps so much to have mobs that dont move to level your pet.
And my personal favorite for pet leveling has to be mentioned:
Instancing! Just enter any level 70 instance (preferably not Heroic) and warn the groupmembers that your pet won't be doing the same damage as a level 70 pet. You'll do slightly less DPS than usual, but you'll be more than capable enough to get the job done.
Don't let him fight, though. An AoE will kill him, unless he is close to you in level. Just keep him at your side and watch him suck up the xp, fast as hell.
Instancing! Just enter any level 70 instance (preferably not Heroic) and warn the groupmembers that your pet won't be doing the same damage as a level 70 pet. You'll do slightly less DPS than usual, but you'll be more than capable enough to get the job done.
Don't let him fight, though. An AoE will kill him, unless he is close to you in level. Just keep him at your side and watch him suck up the xp, fast as hell.
The build I linked was a generic build. Mix and Match what you want. I would skip talents that I put nothing into. however, if you want to move from Focused fire to IAotH go for it, that will work just fine.
rinkkel wrote:
You will NOT out do a BM hunter as MM. even if you take away the pets.
Wow, I'm really surprised to hear that. I just filled out a quick L.53 BM hunter talent sheet and I only see a couple things in there that would up the hunter's dmg with his pet dismissed. Can you even cast Bestial Wrath with your pet dead/dismissed/stabled?
Attack Speed. Our status as top DPS isn't because of Bestial Wrath, Beast Within or Focused Fire. It's because of our Attack Speed (Serpent's Swiftness). All the other things helps out, oh yes, but they are not the reason we do as much dps.
nope, but serpent's swiftness is GODLY.
To address some questions asked back a bit:
I think you are correct, in that imp AotH will benefit you more than Focused Fire, UNTIL you get the Steady Shot and Kill Command abilities. All of your other shots before then (not including Aimed shot, which you shouldn't use mid-fight) are instant cast, and don't mess with the auto-shot timer. Since Steady Shot does, Imp AotH can mess up your shot rotation timing by switching between 2 different autoshot speeds.
Yes, it is. Your pet gets enough crits to keep Frenzy up alot of the time, even without that 5th point. Sort of a diminishing returns thing.
Animal Handler is very useful, because nowhere else can you buff the +hit of your pet. Unless you are a Draenei, or have a melee Draenei in your party.
VRTFirestarter wrote:
Pre-60, why take focused fire over inp AotH? At this point, I didn't see a reason to take it since I can't use the full effect of it yet anyway. Would it be beteer to pick it up later, or is it a key to the build?
I think you are correct, in that imp AotH will benefit you more than Focused Fire, UNTIL you get the Steady Shot and Kill Command abilities. All of your other shots before then (not including Aimed shot, which you shouldn't use mid-fight) are instant cast, and don't mess with the auto-shot timer. Since Steady Shot does, Imp AotH can mess up your shot rotation timing by switching between 2 different autoshot speeds.
VRTFirestarter wrote:
Also, is 1 point in animal handler more helpful than the 5th point in frenzy?
Yes, it is. Your pet gets enough crits to keep Frenzy up alot of the time, even without that 5th point. Sort of a diminishing returns thing.
Animal Handler is very useful, because nowhere else can you buff the +hit of your pet. Unless you are a Draenei, or have a melee Draenei in your party.
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