Starting gear for KaraFollow

Hey all,

I was wondering if their was a detailed list or something somewhere which someone could link me for some good starting Kara gear.

I only have 72 hit atm with only a ring with +12hit and my neck and assassination leggings.

Thanks in advance

Bit more specific plz?

It's preferable to have 8k unbuffed, but you can get away with 7.5k if you have the right group(kings, fort, MotW).

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You don't need all the pieces off this list to do well in Kara, but if you did get them all you would pretty much be assured of topping the DPS charts.

Ding 65 and don't change any gear. Then come back and let me know what your stats are.

Kara requirements are not hard. Kara isn't hard. It's just a rough estimate to get you started. It by no means isn't hard to surpass these numbers.

As for the OP the best thing is to link your armory character if you want specifics.

Your hit is pathetic.

Edit: I had 90 hit at level 60, when gear wasn't itemized for hit.

Edited, Apr 5th 2008 1:15pm by Theophany

Speedburst, if you have decent HP right now, or a couple pieces of PVP gear to mix in, have someone make you all 3 pieces of the Fel Leather set. With gems they give about 100 hit rating, but have 0 HP. If you have PVP gear in other slots you can fill in you will raise your hit and crit, while keeping your HP and AP around the same levels.

Amend that to '95% of raids when you have them on farm' and you might have something. Learning some bosses is made vastly easier if you have a nice big hp pool; it allows for a greater margin of error from you and your healing team.

My guild got Archimonde down this week; first 20 or so wipes I was sitting on around 13.5k hp buffed. Totally necessary? Not really. Helpful as a bit of insurance in case things went tits up? Absolutely.

HP does matter for raids, just not nearly as much as damage stats.

Certain fights in Kara it is impossible to avoid taking damage. Yes, usually if you're going to die with 10k, you'll probably die with 11k. However, that extra 1k HP is going your healers more time to get a heal on you.

I'm not saying he has to make sure he has 9k HP unbuffed to go into Kara, but I'd be scared to take a rogue with 6k HP unbuffed even if he probed to me he could put out 1200 DPS on every fight.

7500 HP unbuffed is a good goal to shoot for. 7k unbuffed is fine to start with, especially if there's a holy priest in the group since his Fort will give you something like 103 more stam.

I realize being 5/5, 3/9 doesn't make me an expert, but I don't need you to patronize me about the importance of damage

To make my point a little more clear, do not stack stamina, or gem it or enchant it, but it is well worth acquiring a few items or even a set, that have more emphasis on survival than damage.

The first rule of raid dps is: you don't do any while you're dead. This mostly refers to situational awareness, but certain fights... a little more hp can mean the difference between being the guy that caused a wipe, and being the smug git using his /point /rofl macro .

Stamina does matter a lot for raiding. I have a tank, a healer and a rogue, and all of them profit a lot from having a certain level of HP. I even gemmed my priest for some extra stamina, trying to avoid getting insta-killed in some situations.

What we should remember when discussing stamina is that the point of view of a PvP player is different from a normal raider. PvP guys start with too much stamina and too little DPS, so their "adaptation" to raiding is dropping stamina in favor of DPS stats. On the other hand, a normal player who just hit 70 has about the same DPS as a PvP player in epics, but only about half of his HP. So for him stamina is something that appears much more important.

I will just mention that I have "filled out" 2 item slots for which I could not find good PvE pieces with S3 PvP epics (which are *much* easier for me to get than PvE drops). Those 2 items (chest and belt) give me 115 stamina, and I love it. I have no fear of getting water-tombed right after Morogrim quake, getting 9k trash cleaves or 10k+ Aran blasts (he does that sometimes). There is NO WAY I am changing that to get 10 more dps.



Edited, Apr 7th 2008 4:12pm by Wytryszek

If you have so little health you can't survive one spell from Aran then yes you need more. But if you are geared for Kara chances are you will be able to survive the one spell and then your healers will have you back up instantly.

You should not be taking Damage from Flame Wreath, Arcane Explosion, or blizzard. If you do take damage from that its because you are retarded and you should stop gimping your raid instead of worrying about more stamina.

Only thing you need to worry about it Pyroblast, which again is your healers problem and not yours.

Most PVE priests have the talent to increase the amount of stam granted by PW:F. When they take this talent it grants you somewhere around 103 stam. (130% of 79, whatever that is)