Sjans wrote:
Ice veins and related builds arent in there,
That hasn't been done because I assumed Filter was working on it(I have a PM in my box from him discussing it). I thought it had been done by now.
Sjans wrote:
Improved blink changed, molten shields replaced imp fire ward, arcane fortitude changed.
Those have been in the game for a little over a week. I haven't had time to update them yet as it's been slammed at work. I'll get to em tonight if I can.
Sjans wrote:
Haste gems are OMGBBQROXRZ in PvP, what ive heard the regular PvPing mage stacks stamina, resilience and haste. (dont pin me down on it, its what i got from talking ingame, im not a PvPer myself)
You've heard it? Where? I haven't heard it(and it's hard to if you've only heard it from a couple people in game). I posted that up no more than a few weeks ago. I'm not a PvPer either and asked for feedback on PvP gems, but got one response. ONE. So I used the information I had and could find relating to gems. Mystical Skyfire Diamond has always been the best meta and gemming for haste makes it such that it's hard to get that meta. So I rated Haste gems secondary to damage because of that. I stated that they were good, but because of the metagem requirements damage might be a better choice.
Sjans wrote:
Also tips like: hit cap in general, ghost hit, +int weapons items for evo.
The sticky welcomes feedback, and I haven't seen any suggestions made there regarding any of these. As Anobix said, if someoen feels that there's something we should add, a PM to one of us or a post in the sticky thread would be the way to go.
Sjans wrote:
If im commenting anyway:
I still personally think that frost isnt for raiding, at all. yes it can be done but if youre happily Kara geared and apply or want to be a SSC/TK guild with FSW youre going to get rejected / laughed at, ive seen it happen and people going though unnessary pain just bc they didnt know that FSW is total crap for PvE.
If youre explaining stuff to people who dont know, youd better make crystal clear whats min/max, 99% of the raiding guilds (again SSC/TK) operate this way. It isnt that clear in the guide/post since it accepts it as viable for PvE which it really isnt. Frost raid mage is even below moonkin, in my observations.
First of all, you want that added, you talk to Filter. I'm not adding that kind of elitism. You're basing your beliefs about frost on your experiences. A well played frost mage can certainly outDPS a moonkin, in my experience, though mine is no more valid then yours. Fire is certainly better DPS, but frost isn't completely useless as you're implying.
And 99% of raiding guilds do not in fact operate this way. That's elitism to its core. I can name multiple guilds on my server alone who have cleared most or all of SSC/TK with frost mages in the guild/raid. These people are not maligned, harassed, nor berated.
But I digress. The GMPE is meant to give you the basics. Knowledge of talents themselves, how best to do whatever cockamamy thing it is you intend to do, stuff like that. General tips are useful, and I certainly have no problem adding them, but I will never make choices for someone. I will now and always have suggested that Fire is better for PvE and Frost is the clear choice for PvP. But I will not tell someone that they'll get laughed at when Apping to an SSC/TK guild as a frost mage, as it's just not the truth. SSC/TK guilds are a dime a dozen nowadays, and there's nowhere near that kind of elitism in these guilds.