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#1 Apr 02 2008 at 9:47 AM Rating: Default
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Has any one else noticed that their boars are being resisted more and more in their opening charge? Becuase if this is true....am I going to need to go back to my cat or are they broke as well?
#2 Apr 02 2008 at 12:55 PM Rating: Excellent
Hmm, I dunno. I haven't used a charging pet since I was around 60 or so. I've had a cat ever since ZG pre-TBC and haven't wanted anything else. Be interesting if this is true though.
#3 Apr 02 2008 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Ever since I lost that armored boar from Razorfen Kraul or whatever its name is, I haven't wanted another boar pet. Blizzard needs to add some high level models of the old beasts for us to tame.

The bestiary in Outland is too freaky for my taste.
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#4 Apr 02 2008 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
From level 23 (the same instant I leveled I went to The Barrens) and until now, Humar has been my companion. Never wanted another pet, other than just to try them out shortly, and I have a feeling I never will.

There's a certain bond that forms between you and someone who's spent all his time at your side through all the trials between 23 to 70. Everything I've done since then, he's been with me. Everything I've endured, he's endured right with me.

Why on earth get another pet from Outlands?
#5 Apr 02 2008 at 1:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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NorthAI the Hand wrote:
Why on earth get another pet from Outlands?


Aha.. haha. The paradox in that comment amuses me. I'm slightly drunk.
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#6 Apr 02 2008 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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Mazra wrote:
I'm slightly drunk.


Mazra? Wouldn't it be easier to just tell us when you're not drunk? I always just assume you are.

As for the OP - I played around with my hunter the other night and I could have sworn the little feller charged. I'll log in when I get home and check it out.

I don't know what level you are but if it's resisting a lot, maybe you just haven't trained the higher levels of charge?

ETA - course you can't train anything higher than charge 6 and gore 9, I believe so after level 60 or 63 or so you're SOL.



Edited, Apr 2nd 2008 5:49pm by Celcio
#7 Apr 02 2008 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
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Celcio wrote:
Mazra wrote:
I'm slightly drunk.


Mazra? Wouldn't it be easier to just tell us when you're not drunk?


Yeah. Yeah, I've thought about it, but really.. no, I don't think so. I wouldn't have anything to say then.

Oh, but you make it sound much worse than it is. I'm not always drunk and rarely to the degree where I'm losing complete selfcontrol. At least, I'm not posting when that happens.

But I do like to sip on a drink while reading the boards, making ready for another night of PvP on Alliance side. Hell, you need to be pretty tipsy to not get a stroke from Alliance PvP. At least in my battlegroups.
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#8 Apr 02 2008 at 2:02 PM Rating: Good
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Mazra wrote:
Oh, but you make it sound much worse than it is. I'm not always drunk and rarely to the degree where I'm losing complete selfcontrol. At least, I'm not posting when that happens.


What were you saying about back pedaling and showing weakness?

Hypocrite Smiley: grin
#9 Apr 02 2008 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Mazra wrote:
But I do like to sip on a drink while reading the boards, making ready for another night of PvP on Alliance side. Hell, you need to be pretty tipsy to not get a stroke from Alliance PvP. At least in my battlegroups.


I feel your pain.

On topic: I want one of those boars from BEM- the pretty blue ones. I don't understand why Blizzard made them demons.
#10 Apr 02 2008 at 4:16 PM Rating: Decent
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I see some Stun resists with my Boar, but usually only on certain types of mobs. No more than I did before the 2.4 patch.

What annoyed me was the mechanics change of how Charge and Growl used to interact.
Either Blizzard have changed the order that the Boar uses his abilities when he first reaches the target, or they have re-written the AP boost of the Charge ability to only apply to the next PHYSICAL attack, not the growl.

The bottom line is the nice big threat spike is gone, and I can do little more than Auto-shoot the mob, with the occasional Steady thrown in.
I will be switching to my cat (Ghost Saber) for regular farming / moneymaking duties, with the higher damage (and threat) per second.
#11 Apr 02 2008 at 10:01 PM Rating: Good
Mazra wrote:
NorthAI the Hand wrote:
Why on earth get another pet from Outlands?

Aha.. haha. The paradox in that comment amuses me. I'm slightly drunk.
Yeah, I liked it too, even though it was unintentional. Had a minor chuckle when I realized what I'd written.
#12 Apr 02 2008 at 11:38 PM Rating: Default
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Has anyone noticed in this thread that nobody except Fraeky answered the question ?

Come on guys/girls when i reply i always try and answer the question in a simple way not go off on a HELL I AM A GOD of answers track ....

So i will answer it then in the only way i know how , Yes the boars are suffering resists but so are all pets it seems since the patch , i have not been able to do any real testing since the hotfix so am not sure if it has improved yet.

What i have seen while wandering the boards is that not all hunters and not all pets are having problems so that is either their spec or some weird random code problems that was introduced in the last patch...

More testing of the problems is needed and yes i know there are a few threads about the weirdness going on since the last patch , but this does need to be talked about and figured out.....

i doubt i will ever be rated up anyway as i have not got the ability or the maths to figure out what the hell is going on but at least i try to help... yup i know i should keep quiet at times but i say what i think and truly do not care about getting my name in colour as i have already told two that sent me a message about being rated down ...


#13 Apr 03 2008 at 1:16 AM Rating: Good
Derailment is a tried and true method of saying "I don't have the answer, but I acknowledge your existence. Might provide an answer if I happen to come over it during playtime/forum reading".
#14 Apr 03 2008 at 1:27 AM Rating: Decent
Ahhhhhhh, Karma talk! Quick, everyone gather around and watch as I light him on fire!
#15 Apr 03 2008 at 1:54 AM Rating: Good
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I 100% completely agree with North :D

If you boar people are going back to cats/raptors/ravagers for the DPS after this supposed change in the boars, don't expect much. My Ravager can't hold aggro for crap. I have the 100% increased Focused Regen Talent, GFtT, and a 23%+ crit rating, and if I want my ravager to hold aggro, I have to sit and Autoshot- but even then, I often pull aggro after a few hits.

It's so upsetting that, as a BM hunter, I have to kite my mobs around.
#16 Apr 03 2008 at 1:59 AM Rating: Decent
Malleus Maleficarum has been replaced with Karmaeus Maleficarum.
Burn the witch! Er... Karma whiner!
#17 Apr 03 2008 at 2:54 AM Rating: Good
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to the OP: Charge is nerfed to hell and back, not because they actually nerfed charge but because the first attack to land after charge is now an autoattack a.k.a no more giant threatspikes.
#18 Apr 03 2008 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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So then since ravagers are the "ideal raid pet" per the FAQ how about now? They have the same nerf issues as boars so are cats the new "raid pet" again?
#19 Apr 03 2008 at 2:41 PM Rating: Good
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Ravagers have not been subject to the same nerf as Boars, because Boars are the only ones that have the Charge ability.
Ravagers and Cats use the same speed-enchancing ability - Dash.
#20 Apr 03 2008 at 2:43 PM Rating: Decent
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So then since ravagers are the "ideal raid pet" per the FAQ how about now? They have the same nerf issues as boars so are cats the new "raid pet" again?


What are you talking about? For one, ravagers weren't nerfed at all in 2.4 as far as I know, and if you think that they have charge (which they don't), it wouldn't matter anyways, since threat on your pet isn't an issue in raids.
#21 Apr 03 2008 at 2:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Celcio wrote:
Mazra wrote:
Oh, but you make it sound much worse than it is. I'm not always drunk and rarely to the degree where I'm losing complete selfcontrol. At least, I'm not posting when that happens.


What were you saying about back pedaling and showing weakness?

Hypocrite Smiley: grin


There's a difference. I have 20,000 posts. I don't have to care anymore.
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#22 Apr 03 2008 at 3:09 PM Rating: Decent
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The extra 212 don't matter? I guess I'm at 2 posts :P
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