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#1 Apr 01 2008 at 2:43 PM Rating: Good
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Just tamed a hyena in Tanaris last night. I think I've finally found the best physically proportioned pet for my Dwarf. Cats were too slim and Ravagers just gave me the willies.

However, since Blizzard, in their infinite wisdom, decided not to add hyenas higher than level 48 or so in the game, I'm now forced to level up this cute little dog. Something I wouldn't mind, if I didn't have to fight mobs that were green to me to give the little bugger experience.

Kiting around level 62's is horribly mana inefficient and being a Beast Master doesn't exactly help since the pet hits for 2-3 damage and has a 90% miss rate. And every kill only moves the experience bar ever so slightly. It's painful to watch.

Not to mention he's still only loyalty level 1 since he needs experience equal to 50% of a level to gain a loyalty level.

And no, I can't just run a dozen instances with my guild. I don't have one and PUGs don't exactly like it when you enter the group with the phrase "Hey, by the way, I'm leveling up my pet..."

Need advice on how to best level it up without suffering from a stroke.
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#2 Apr 01 2008 at 2:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Blood elves in terrokar, they are casters, lvl 63-4ish and absolutely refuse to move so ideal for petleveling.
#3 Apr 01 2008 at 3:09 PM Rating: Good
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Aethien wrote:
Blood elves in terrokar, they are casters, lvl 63-4ish and absolutely refuse to move so ideal for petleveling.


I'd rate you up once for every post of mine if I could. Thanks a lot! Smiley: inlove

This will make things so much easier.

Edit: Three levels in less than an hour. Weehaw! Once he's level 60 it'll go much faster since he'll finally be able to deal some respectable damage to those pesky blood elves.

Edited, Apr 2nd 2008 1:59am by Mazra
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#4 Apr 01 2008 at 10:15 PM Rating: Good
You can also just do a few instance runs. Inform the group that your pet is low level, but won't have a higher aggro range than you yourself. Just keeping him at your side, you will let him leech so much xp that he will blow through levels like kleenex.

If you are BM, you might have a noticeably lower dps, but that's not too important in a five man.
#5 Apr 01 2008 at 10:27 PM Rating: Decent
Well my dps is important to me whether I'm in some little 5-man or I'm in a 25-man raid. Groups bring me as a dps class, so I want to max out what I can do. I, too, am leveling a pet at 70 but what I do is take it with me when I run around doing all my dailies (it gained 30% of a level today) and so little by little mine will get to max. I'm not really pushing it because its a wind strider and my gear's not to the point where it'd be useful, but I want it ready when my char is ready.
#6 Apr 02 2008 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Your pet doesn't get experience from quests, though, does it? I've had great success farming those Blood Elves in Terrokar Forest. The signets they drop sell for quite a bit on auction and they drop just enough food and water for me to keep myself afloat.

Smiley: thumbsup

Also, I'd lose, what, 25% of my effectiveness in a group with a lowbie pet? No intimation to pull adds off the healer. No Bestial Wrath to nuke down that clothie. My pet is a pretty huge part of my character when I'm Beast Mastery spec'd.

Of course, I could spend the gold on a respec, but then I'd have to learn how to be a Marksman.
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#7 Apr 02 2008 at 11:41 AM Rating: Good
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SV > MM :P
#8 Apr 03 2008 at 7:22 PM Rating: Good
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Actually, if you are levelling a lowbie pet as a BM, he starts to become more useful a bit earlier than if you were another spec, partly due to Animal handler, with the +hit bonus.
I trained an Ashmane Boar (i hate the look of the plagued ones), and until he was within 4 or 5 lvls of the mob, there was nothing coming up for the pet but MISS, MISS, DODGE, GLANCING, MISS, GLANCING etc etc.
#9 Apr 03 2008 at 11:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Just wanted to add this in.

Blizz just put in some new ravagers, level 70. Need a flying mount to get there(they are between hellfire and terrokar), but aren't very hard to find. Look it up on petopia for more info.

No more leveling low level ravagers at least! : )
#10 Apr 04 2008 at 5:55 AM Rating: Default
Easy, play with a group that doesn't understand Beast Master Hunters and won't let you use your pet to tank/agro/kill/pull.... there are plenty of them around......

#11 Apr 04 2008 at 6:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Mitzli wrote:
Easy, play with a group that doesn't understand Beast Master Hunters and won't let you use your pet to tank/agro/kill/pull.... there are plenty of them around......
Its obvious that you arent lvl 70 yet.
#12 Apr 04 2008 at 7:02 AM Rating: Default
Hello. Im a new Hunter (lvl 56 now). I always have been using a Cat from lvl 10-56. My question is, if I tame another pet (lvl 50 for example) my training points will be 0. That mean I will never get the same Nature Armor rank that I have on my cat (think is like 125 T.P.) or the new pet will have it for being lvl 50+ already? Thanks for any help
#13 Apr 04 2008 at 8:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Go read Petopia. All questions on pets are answered there. Also go read the FAQ at the top of the forum. That's covered there also.

Pet training points are dependant on your pet's level and loyalty level. That is all. Any pet you tame is the same that way. That's not to say all pets are created equal. Some types of pets have unique skills.

Now go do that reading.

Edited, Apr 4th 2008 9:11am by ItsaGaAs
#14 Apr 04 2008 at 9:49 AM Rating: Default
Thanks for ur post Itsa. I think my post was not clear. I have read Petopia and other pet stuff, I know pets are diff. by family. My question was about the training points per se. If Im not wrong my pet was gaining like 5 TP for each lvl (with loyalty 6). Sinse I have use the same pet from lvl 1-56 I have 200+ TP. So my question was, If I get a pet already lvl 50, I will get like 30 TP from 50-56? If yes, that mean that I cant get the skills already I have in my cat? (for example Natural armor and Great stamina) With this I dont mean if the new pet have the capacity to learn it, Im talking about the lack of training points bc a new pet have 0 TP and those 2 skills need like 200 TP.

Maybe I still dont put my question clear so I will put an example. Cats are more attacker than tanker. Bears are more tanker. My cat lvl 56 do decent dmg and still have good def. bc have Natural armor rank 9 and Great stamina rank 9 (200+ training points). I get a bear from 50-56 so I guess will get like 30 training points. I can train then my bear with Nat. armor rank 2 and G. stamina rank 3? So that mean my cat will be better tank that this bear even when bear family is more a tank than cat family? Thanks again for any answer
#15 Apr 04 2008 at 9:58 AM Rating: Decent
As stated in the FAQ, that we tried to point you to.

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Pets gain training points every time they level or increase in loyalty. Overall this works out to the same amount in the end no matter how it happens. (The exact formula is level * loyalty-1.) Training points are now reclaimable like talent points, by visiting a pet trainer and having them reset the training points, so there is no difference in the number of training points you get, or whether you take a level 10 cat to 70 instead of getting one at 70.
#16 Apr 04 2008 at 10:19 AM Rating: Default
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As stated in the FAQ, that we tried to point you to.

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Pets gain training points every time they level or increase in loyalty. Overall this works out to the same amount in the end no matter how it happens. (The exact formula is level * loyalty-1.) Training points are now reclaimable like talent points, by visiting a pet trainer and having them reset the training points, so there is no difference in the number of training points you get, or whether you take a level 10 cat to 70 instead of getting one at 70.


Hmmm, I dont see how this answer my question but thank you anyway. Unless that mean that my new pet will gain 200+ training points from lvl 50-56. What I understand from this quote is that my new pet will learn the same amount of training points at the same lvl and loyalty than my actual pet, but that will be the new gain, what about the 200+ TP that my cat already have? bc I can reclaim my points(untrain my pet) but I can use that points in a new pet? or the will stay in my cat when I put it in the stable?
#17 Apr 04 2008 at 10:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Each pet has its own training points. Its not like they're shared across all your pets.

Also, you might be confused because your current pet's training points show negative numbers at loyalty level 1. That happens when a pet comes with some skills. As his loyalty level increases, he'll eventually get extra points for you to play with. The pool of points is the same.

Edited, Apr 4th 2008 12:10pm by ItsaGaAs
#18 Apr 04 2008 at 10:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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sivier wrote:
Unless that mean that my new pet will gain 200+ training points from lvl 50-56.


It will.

My level 48 Hyena had -32 training points or so when I tamed it (because it already knew Dash rank 2) and after gaining two loyalty levels and six experience levels, he now has 92 training points. Each time the pet gains a loyalty level, the training points will get a boost. The higher level your pet is, the bigger the boost, but in the end, once your pets are 'Best Friend' and level 70, they'll have the same amount of training points available, assuming you didn't spend any.

I hope you understood that.
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#19 Apr 04 2008 at 11:24 AM Rating: Default
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sivier wrote:
Unless that mean that my new pet will gain 200+ training points from lvl 50-56.


It will.

My level 48 Hyena had -32 training points or so when I tamed it (because it already knew Dash rank 2) and after gaining two loyalty levels and six experience levels, he now has 92 training points. Each time the pet gains a loyalty level, the training points will get a boost. The higher level your pet is, the bigger the boost, but in the end, once your pets are 'Best Friend' and level 70, they'll have the same amount of training points available, assuming you didn't spend any.

I hope you understood that.

Thank you very much, exactly my question /bow :). That mean (guess that u take ur Hyena from 48-62) that with ur 92 points u cant train it on Great stamina rank 9 and Natural Armor rank 9 bc that will consume more than 200 training points? or u mean 92 points plus the same amount that ur old pet have at 48?

Edited, Apr 4th 2008 3:30pm by sivier

Edited, Apr 4th 2008 3:31pm by sivier
#20 Apr 04 2008 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
I dont know how to make this clearer, you old pet has nothing to do with your new pet. All pets have the same exact training points, so if you tame a lvl 48 what ever, it will have the same amount of points that your current lvl 48 pet has, once it reaches the same loyalty.
#21 Apr 04 2008 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
montaghar wrote:
I dont know how to make this clearer, you old pet has nothing to do with your new pet. All pets have the same exact training points, so if you tame a lvl 48 what ever, it will have the same amount of points that your current lvl 48 pet has, once it reaches the same loyalty.


Crystal clear, tyvm sir. And thanks to all the other ppl for the answers. Happy Hunting
#22 Apr 04 2008 at 12:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Just another thing, all pets (when at the same loyalty level) will receive the same amount of training points, regardless of family, and the level that you tamed it at. A loyalty level 6 level 70 pet that you just tamed +will have the same amount as one that you leveled from 10-70 at loyalty level 6.
#23 Apr 04 2008 at 6:53 PM Rating: Good
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Mazra, go back to the girl as your avatar, please. :(
#24 Apr 04 2008 at 8:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Mazra, go back to the girl as your avatar, please. :(


Quite an insightful post if I may say so myself. Kidding. Really Mazra, that odd Panda mutation thing you have going on right now... it's keeping me awake. Odd.
#25 Apr 05 2008 at 3:27 AM Rating: Good
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But I like the rampaging panda teddy bear. Smiley: frown
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#26 Apr 05 2008 at 7:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kate Beckinsale > rampaging teddy bear.

Edited, Apr 5th 2008 10:15am by Bigdaddyjug
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