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#1 Apr 01 2008 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Hello everyone. I was thinking about specing for SV and was interested in the Expose Weakness talent. I also noticed that the Dragonstalker Set has a Expose Weakness bonus to it as well. I was wondering if anyone knew if the proc bonus from the 8/8 Dragonstalker Set stacked with the Expose Weakness talent?

If not, then I'm trying to determine which would be more beneficial to have, the talent or the set bonus? I did the math(And someone please correct me if I am wrong) and for the Expose Weakness talent to match the Ranged-Attack bonus of the set I would need 1800 AGI on my hunter?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer my question or offer some advice on the subject
#2 Apr 01 2008 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
Too bad there are greens in outlands better than the dragonstalker set. I don't know how you'd expect to collect the set by now anyway.
#3 Apr 01 2008 at 8:39 PM Rating: Decent
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My character is only lvl 13 so I have a while before Outlands. And thanks for the reply Dilbrt....even though you didn't answer any of my questions. But thanks for posting regardless-lol

Guess no one knows if the two different version can stack together :(
#4 Apr 01 2008 at 9:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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In order to get all 8 pieces of tier 2 you would have to do a lot of raiding that would be virtually pointless for most people. You say outlands is far off, but tier 2 is level 60 content, while outlands is level 58. And in the time it takes to get from level 58 to 63, where greens are better than t3 gear, you're going to do maybe 1-3 raids IF you have a lot of help from people who are willing, and are likely to get 1/3 of the set. You are right on the math, and the question is the proc chance. However, I estimate it to be low at 60, and lower at 70.

Another difference is that the t2 bonus only affects hunters. Meaning if you're in a raid which has 3 warriors, 1 enh shaman, 3 rogues, a feral druid, and 4 hunters (amongst casters and healers), the bonus to the gear would be 1800 AP, whereas it would take only 600 agility to get that via expose weakness over all 12 physical DD. And you buff the tanks, which means they deal more threat, which means everyone else can deal more damage.

Even if you get the gear, and the bonuses don't stack, I'd recommend getting EW talent, since you will likely replace the gear anyway, and when the gear proc isn't up, the talent likely will be.
As to the talent choices, I would really recommend levelling BM or MM (BM more than MM). Survival does not buff your pet much at all, and with a pet that has low health and threat output soloing is a PITA. You can always respec at 70.
#5 Apr 01 2008 at 10:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks Skribs for your informative post, it deserves a rate-up. As you suggested when I get to that point I'll just invest the points in the talent version of expose weakness, since it is much easier to acquire.
#6 Apr 02 2008 at 12:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Rush from 1-70 using BM and whatever quest gear you pick up, then worry about gear and spec. For the majority of stuff, by the time you try to get a group together to get something done, you could be a few levels beyond where whatever you were trying to get is actually useful.

#7 Apr 02 2008 at 7:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Rush from 1-70 using BM and whatever quest gear you pick up, then worry about gear and spec. For the majority of stuff, by the time you try to get a group together to get something done, you could be a few levels beyond where whatever you were trying to get is actually useful.


While this is true for someone who has the goal of getting to 70 fast, instances are important so people can learn the feel of group content. Lower level stuff not so much (because you can 4-man most instances without a tank) but once you hit the 30's and start doing SM it becomes more and more important to learn things like firing on a focus target, not breaking CC, etc. I wouldn't really try learning how to CC until later though, since the cooldowns on traps make hunter CC pre-60 very crappy.
Also, instance quests give a LOT of experience and some nice gear, especially with the upgrades in 2.3. If done correctly, LFGing will not interfere with questing, as you can quest until you have a full group. In addition, if you get ran through lower level instances (especially by an AoE class) you can get tons of experience real fast.

So I do agree that stopping questing to sit in a city while LFGing can be detrimental to quick levelling, if you continue to quest while LFGing then instances can be wonderful. But in this case, farming for raid gear pre-70, is a COMPLETE waste of time, and you're 100% correct.
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