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#1 Mar 30 2008 at 9:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I have both a level 34 Tauren Druid, and a level 25 Night Elf Druid. On a bad pull with my Tauren I go bear, let my health go really low, then War Stomp, cast healing spell(s) then go back to bear and finish the fight. My Night Elf started balance but went feral when I realized that if I hurried I could catch up to a friends character (when I'll go back to Balance) but I've replaced my Int gear with more feral stats. Still I often find myself dying on bad pulls, due to my Tauren self healing reflexes. So is there some technique I should be using when my fight expands, or should I just be glad that corpse runs don't take so long?
#2 Mar 30 2008 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
Once you get barkskin at 44, none of that will matter too much. You'll take 20% less damage and can't get pushback when casting spells. Also with 2.33 or one of the more recent patches, when you use barkskin in forms it will automatically bring you into caster form which is a very big plus.
#3 Mar 30 2008 at 1:47 PM Rating: Good
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L2run. You're a druid, you pretty much got immunity to everything except for daze if you keep switching out, and if you're feral then you should have +30% run speed in cat form (5 levels to cheetah form and it gets easier then). Either that or heal sooner.
#4 Mar 30 2008 at 4:40 PM Rating: Default
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Bash. Bash > Warstomp.

That is all.
#5 Mar 30 2008 at 5:36 PM Rating: Good
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Bash. Bash > Warstomp.

That is all.


Yes...because bash is going to stun all those adds he gets, instead of a single target.

Edited, Mar 30th 2008 6:36pm by skribs
#6 Mar 30 2008 at 8:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually a tutorial on proper bash usage would not be out of order as I've never used it outside of a group. Does 5/5 Furor make this usable in solo play to interrupt self healing casters or do lag issues make this impracticable? For that matter should I only do it if I have less than 40 Energy making the shifting a net gain in Energy? More specifically, if I am level 24 and am fighting 3 level 22 Ashenvale Bears, and after killing one of the bears I pick up a level 24 Elk on a poorly aimed swipe; should I bash one of the bears or the Elk to have the best chance of getting my healing touch off? I don't remember which I did hit with it, but I picked wrong and would like to avoid doing so in the future.
#7 Mar 30 2008 at 8:44 PM Rating: Decent
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That question is pointless, because you will outlevel those specific mobs in a matter of a few dozen minutes, and then it's the next group of mobs. And if you're looking for a list of all the mobs and how you should prioritize them, forget it. Whichever mobs hit fastest (most are 2.0, so it doesnt matter) bash them. More hits you take, more pushbacks you get. But nobody in their right mind is going to give you a list of 20+ mobs per level and say "bash A before C before D..."
#8 Mar 30 2008 at 11:56 PM Rating: Good
i dont know if he was really looking for a list of mob. think he might have been asking if he should do the higher lvl one first or not. i cant remember if you can dodge or not while casting but even if you cant i would do the higher lvl mob bashed if all are melee. just for the fact if you can dodge less chance on higher lvl mobs and higher lvl mob should be hitting for more unless non-elite. really there are alot of diff situations and like skribs says no one is gonna make a big bad list of what to do when would be longer than some of the F.A.Q. on alla.


edit:skribs not scribs : )


Edited, Mar 31st 2008 3:56am by punkspider
#9 Mar 31 2008 at 4:55 AM Rating: Good
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Just heal yourself earlier. Or go cat form, hit nature grasp and run.
#10 Mar 31 2008 at 7:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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I found it helpful to put points into Nature's Focus until I got Barkskin. Then I just dropped it when I did the Mangle respec at 50.
#11 Mar 31 2008 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
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skribs wrote:
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Bash. Bash > Warstomp.

That is all.


Yes...because bash is going to stun all those adds he gets, instead of a single target.

Edited, Mar 30th 2008 6:36pm by skribs

Well, okay, I admit I wasn't thinking of it that way. I can't recall ever finding myself having pulled enough prior to barkskin that I could kill them all except one before I needed to heal. And I've never found warstomp incredibly useful because, at best, you can get a rejuv off before it ends. It doesn't last long enough to cast anything with a cast time, whereas bash, when talented, actually will.

That being said, I will concede your point. Like I said, I wasn't thinking about stunning multiple opponents.
#12 Mar 31 2008 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
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If I accidentally pull an extra mob, Warstomp is the best. Once you get the Low Health warning, hit Warstomp and immediately cast regrowth, you should just get it off as the stomp runs out, then cast rejuv and switch into bear. Unless the mobs are 3 or 4 levels higher thenyou,or you have too many, those 2 HoTs will heal through the damage you are taking. But if it's really crappy then it's nature's grasp and then Cat (or cheetah if you have it) and get the **** out.
#13 Apr 01 2008 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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I primarily use Warstomp (in PvE) as a gtfo button. Normally it's when I pull too many mobs or in a situation where I thought I was much more skilled than I am :P.

I have a Razer Lachesis gaming mouse (buy now, thank me later) and I have the two inside buttons programmed to my '-' key and my '=' key. I put frequently used abilities there. In this particular case Warstomp -> Cat\Cheetah works like a charm. Very rarely do I use Warstomp in PvE and stay to fight.

Just my take on the usages of Warstomp.
#14 Apr 01 2008 at 8:04 AM Rating: Default
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Stop making bad pulls! That's seems to be the simpler answer imo.
#15 Apr 01 2008 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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weeedoggy wrote:
Stop making bad pulls! That's seems to be the simpler answer imo.


You don't remember the cake walks, the fights you were supposed to win and did, the thirty levels lower than you scrub you just ganked. There is no opportunity to be brave, for glory or for honor there. No what you remember are the disasters, where everything that can go wrong does, where there is always another add right before you think it's over, when you use every once of skill, pluck, every cool down, ability or trinket. Usually all of that is not enough. But when it is... Oh, but when it is. Long live the bad pull.
#16 Apr 01 2008 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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Bash is great, especially with brutal impact. In response to your question, yes, it is a terrific interrupt on caster mobs. Before I got maim for cat form, I'd fight mobs in cat for pushback from higher attack speed but sometimes shift to bear and bash if I saw them casting a spell that I absolutely had to interrupt (ie, heal).

In the situation you outlined, in which you had three like-level mobs on you, I agree with other posters that if possible you want to run. (This will become less necessary as you get higher lvl but a 24 druid has a tough time with three mobs. At 40, you will tear through them like a hot knife through butter.) However, if you're gonna bash one, pop out and heal, I'd bash the one with the quickest attack speed. If they seem equal, bash the one that does the most damage (usually the highest level).
#17 Apr 01 2008 at 3:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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weeedoggy wrote:
Stop making bad pulls!


Don't be silly. I'm a druid. I don't need caution. I don't need vanish or ice block or some weenie little bubble. And I don't need good pulls.

Edited, Apr 1st 2008 7:31pm by teacake
#18 Apr 01 2008 at 5:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Don't be silly. I'm a druid. I don't need caution. I don't need vanish or ice block or some weenie little bubble. And I don't need good pulls.


you remind me of my friend dimo teacake. here's a snippet of what happens in instances with him (hes a warlock):

*everyone sits down to rest, dimo spams life tap to get mana back, i begin to mark targets*

ok, kill the skull first, then move onto the X. rio, i want you to own that fel puppy asap, just blow exorcism and stuff on it then work on the skull with me. get a trap on the square and then fear yo-yo the....hey, where's hathmon [dimos voidwalker] going?

dimo: hey guys, hathmon aggroed a few groups! *dimo looks around* guys? guys?! dont zone out without meeeeeee!!!!!!11!

aaaand scene.

well, sorta. most of the time he just aoe fears for no reason at all. well, i take that back; he does it for a reason, and that reason is to sow chaos and make it so we dont get lazy. it works too, because i have yet to see anyone else kill 7 elites in shattered halls with a priest/war/lock trio all in blues. nothing prepares you for bad pulls like constant bad pulling!
#19 Apr 02 2008 at 5:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Oh, well, but I didn't mean in parties. I never ever do the pulling in instances. For some inexplicable reason, my husband doesn't let me. *hum*
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