Fury Spec Skill Rotation?Follow

Using the 17/44/0 Raid PvE Build, with two S2 Swords, What would be my order of abilities to keep dps up?

I.E Bloodthirst-> Heroic Strike-> Whirlwind etc
(i know you dont do that order, just putting an example)

I know how to 2h Slam time, but i have no experience with a fury spec :(

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks~

You might as well spec 2/2 in Imp. WW though. Having CD's that are dividable with 1.5 is only ever necessary if you use all your GCD's.

If you're specced into Imp. Demo. Shout you should focus on keeping that up for the tank too. He is using all his GCD :P

So BT-WW is mainly what you do? What spec would you recommend, i know the usual cookie-cutter fury spec from the faq post, but it differs from what i would do. I will be doing alot of 5-mans as well, trying to get some badges for the new loot, so would my rotation be the same? I may actually end up tanking the 5-mans though, since most tanks i get are scrubs and die in 2 hits lol :O.

Assumeing your armory matches your profile war i looked at, i think you just lack Crit hit to get double rage hits. Assumeing your AP is about 1900 with self-buff on.

I run about 35% crit on un-buffed stats, 2200 AP with shout on.

But i haven't got any time to play and test the fury setup (same as yours) in a 5-man heroic yet. Still on my axe arms/flurry setup with gorehowl (42% crit unbuffed :O)

I will run a test and see if i have any rage problems, then we can discuss :O

It's not even that, but the bonus rage you get off a Warlock using CoReck (see: dealing more damage) far, far, far outweighs the bonus from UW... and that's excluding the pure damage on special attacks you get.

I'm surprised you couldn't keep the rotation up, though. Did you have Windfury? Even without it, try not dropping Heroic Strikes unless you have excess Rage (>60) and you should easily be able to sustain BT/WW every cooldown.

Do you guys use rampage at all? And is using the S2 Offhand sword a bad idea? (1.6 speed), i have only the MH and OH s2 swords.. may have to upgrade if the OH speed will be a problem.

Got the same dillema here too. My guild recently made me spec to fury from arms cause my dps was crap, but now its getting better. As for the fury rotation I use the 11/50/0 build . Only thing is, I pop zerker rage and bloodrage for an instant 20 rage, then go from there. I go BS > HS > WW > Bloodrage (If its on CD, I save zerker rage if we're on a boss with a fear/stun, if not I try and pop both) then after bloodrage goes Rampage >HS > Demo shout > WW > and whatever rage is left over I use for Blood thirst. So for me its basically like a 2-part roation, but its doin me good for now. I'm open to any advice/suggestions. Edit : Sometimes if I run out of rage in my rotation I pop a rage pot.Yea the level 4 ones, they're cheap and hey, they come in handy when you need rage, I also down them like crazy if I'm gathering rage for an Execute.

Edited, Mar 28th 2008 1:54am by icyburn

Just as a quick update,
we raided last night and got a few upgrades
- i tweaked my fury spec to grab Unbridled Wrath,
- I loaded up on new enchants,(mongoose on main hand, potency on off hand, gloves, and boots)
- bought as many Gems as the AH allowed me too,
- i realized i had enough pvp honor to upgrade my old, awful quest reward belt.
- i upgraded my old adamantite BS gloves with the CE rep reward gloves (dont laugh, its all i have access to at the moment) :P

it was an extreme difference for the better.
i followed the suggestions you guys gave me, (although, i'm still learning here, i've been a tank for far , far to long) my DPS jumped significantly and i had lots of rage to use. i

i'm still working on mats for a few enchants still, researching some gear upgrades etc... and just working on my UI layout and keybindings to make my rotation and abilities smoother... so i'm building up slowly but surely.

so thanks for the input. it helped.

Question:
you can see my armory from the post above.
i have two slow weapons (2.6 seconds each) would it be worth it to get, say the S1 fast offhand sword? or just stick with the slow ones?

The difference between slow and fast OH weapons is pretty marginal. Fast provides more consistent rage generation and slow provides burstier rage generation, but the overall amount is exactly the same (or extremely close, anyway - you won't be able to see a difference). A Slower OH gives a bit of a boost to Whirlwind damage and leads to a slightly higher Flurry uptime due to the higher proportion of Instant Attacks to Autoattacks, and a Faster OH gets a larger boost out of sharpening stones. *shrug*

It's not worth worrying about.



The reason that Arms is preferred in PvP boils down to a few factors;

1) Death Wish, which isn't as big of a factor in BGs (in Arenas, people will routinely ignore you... which means no Enrage, whereas in BGs you'll have it up constantly).
2) Second Wind, for more survivability and Rage generation when people aren't feeding you Rage.
3) Mortal Strike debuff, which is absolutely huge in any context... if people are actually healing. People don't always do that in BGs, though, so it doesn't always actually... matter.

I know people who do quite well in BGs as Prot Spec (on the offensive, no less; not just in terms of defending a node), spec isn't really a huge deal there. Not being a complete moron will take you pretty far.



Well, Windfury is really going to make or break your damage... without it, most melee DPS (Rogues, too) is going to be pretty subpar. There's not a lot you can do directly about that, though.

Still, though, the first thing to drop out of your rotation should be HS. If you're hitting it too often/too early you'll be low on rage when abilities come up; getting used to when to HS is just something you'll have to practice, and it comes with time and experience.