Thoughts on 2.4?Follow

I spent another evening repainting Booty Bay with the blood of the Goblin bouncers, and I actually had to drink less... only once I think, after I aggroed 4 of them at the same time.

However, I'm wearing PvP gear which has int on it, so I might have gotten a mana regen boost with the patch... I wish I had noticed the numbers the day before.

I'll do some mathcraft for this when I can log onto WoW, but unless they made an exception to druids while in forms the formula for determining your mp5 should be the same now for all classes across the board as opposed to different spirit based regen rates per class, and the new formula is as follows, according to WoWwiki:

MP5 = 5 * (0.001 + sqrt(Int) * Spirit * 0.009327)

as opposed to the old formula which was:

[(spirit/5)+15]*2.5 (while in form, if I remember correctly)

Edit: Well druidbar doesn't work right now so I had to check the mp5 manually, and it does in fact look like it's cut but it could just be me. I went kitty for 40 seconds which would effectively be 8~ ticks, well i have 89mp5 while not casting and after the 40 secs I only recovered 494 mana, which is a strange number because that's 5.5 ticks... Quite strange indeed, any other mathcrafters want to try tests of their own? Or should we conclude that it is possible there is an alternate formula for druids in form.

Edited, Mar 28th 2008 3:51pm by franktehtank

From what I have read, if you have over 300 Int, your regen will be better than before. If you have less than 300 Int (like us ferals) then your regen will be worse than it was before.

I love Intensity for my tanking, but the mana regen portion of it just got much more important to us.


The new instance is pretty tough. Regular mode feels like a hard version of Shadow Labs, lots of 5-6 pulls. I've done it 4 times and have done every rep quest, every day since the patch came out and am about 4 bars into honored now. Nice to get the Void Shatter enchant skill already :)

Just can't wait to get the portal, repair guy & mailbox on the island.

Lucky me ;) Since I have more than 300 Int( in my Moonkin form), my Regen has INDEED increased. Not by much, 25 pts or so, but it HAS.

I am really curious to see the effects on the tree form.

ive always preferres stacking more int than the average feral does. perhaps its an old holdout from my preferred style of outlasting play, but i could never just stack str/stam or str/agi; i need to have at least 20% of my stats allocated to int, usually more around 30-35%.

I've noticed a big difference in my mana regen. I was doing AB yesterday and had to drink 5 or 6 times more then I usually have too. Does this mean Ferals will have to itemize intellect and spirit too? -.-;;;

If you gear for pvp as feral you can't really avoid int even if you try. Most of the vindicators and arena pieces have some amount of int on it. As it is I'm sitting on a 336 int in my pvp gear, so if you gear for pvp you should have a good mana regen even after the patch.

If you gear for leveling/grinding check out the wild draenish pieces from leatherworking for some extra int. They are pretty decent alround pieces.

As for spirit I have no clue. I got +20 spirit in my pvp gear from a +6 stats enchant and +14 from mark of the wild :D Not exactly a whole lot. Should probably get the +4 stats on bracer, but I haven't had any problems with regen so far, so i don't really worry about it too much.

Side note from a tanking perspective.

Didn't really see any impact of the mangel global cooldown change which is nice.

On the whole swipe issue, I have seen it work, and seen it not work. It seems a little buggy and will go back to my old methods of pulling until some of the bugs are sorted out.