2.4 stealth hunter changes?Follow

OMG! I'm not the only one. Last night, my escape key wasn't working on my laptop, and I was freaking out. At first I thought that maybe it had gotten stuck, so I tried hitting "ctrl Esc," and that worked. Then I started to look through my key bindings to see if I had bound something stupid, and I hadn't. It spontaneously started to work again late last night.

I haven't noticed the autoshot thing yet, but that's probably because I've been playing on a computer without an autoshot timer.

AND YES! Ability not learned is really upsetting me. It's mostly been happening with Feed Pet. I thought it was my feed pet macro messing up, but I went in and rewrote it, and it still didn't work. When that happens, I either have to relog or die to fix it.

Edit: It actually happened to me RIGHT after I had deleted my WTF folder. My PC was getting weird crashes, so I had to raid on my laptop. Since it had been a while since I had played on it, I deleted the WTF and Interface folder, and redownloaded all of my add-ons fresh. I had already been getting that Feed Pet thing on my PC, but the esc thing has only happened on my laptop.

Edited, Mar 31st 2008 2:48pm by ProjectMidnight

I have been affected during boss fights with a decrees in mana. This weekend during Curator I ran out of mana 4 times where normally I would not even have to pop a pot. And yes I use aspect of the viper and mana oil. I also noticed I can pull agro a lot faster off my pet.

PMEL (Precision Measurement Equipment Laboratory)

I get all of the crappy bugs mentioned above too. I think it's all connected to kill command sticking, check your KC icon when it happens.

The escape thing in particular is really annoying me.

Seems to be a lot more mana issues compared prior to 2.4 I have to gulp mana pots like no tomorrow now and drink a lot more frequently in between trash. I tried switching to my inferior mail with int instead of my 2 leather and it didn't make it any better.

Edited, Apr 1st 2008 8:07am by Elustriel

This is not true I have changed I use mana like it is my life blood like I said in the previous post. I run kara on a regular basis and have never run into this problem before. It is like I get no mana regain from aspect of the viper or anything else. I am not trying to say I am the best hunter I am not I know that but when I have not changed anything from 2.3 to 2.4 and I can not hold on to mana then something has changed. You might not see it because your intellect is above 300 but for anyone below that number a greater mana drain is there. All I am saying is during curator on the week before 2.4 came out I was able to last the whole fight without using any mana pots. After 2.4 came out I had to use mana pots every time the cool down was up. And as you say this should not affect boss fights? Why did it affect me and other hunters in my guild during a boss fight? I understand it did not affect you but not all of us have the best gear in the game. I my self have decent gear but not the best. The fact is I drop a lot more mana now then before 2.4 came out. Could someone please confirm this? And I do not fail as a hunter you do not know me I do not know you saying something like that you must have insecurities about your own hunterness. I have read all the patch notes and did see these changes.

If you would have payed attention to the changes you would have known that it changes nothing whatsoever for hunters in bossfights with very few exceptions or unless you absolutely fail as a hunter.

This is what you wrote now I can prove this is not correct it has affected boss fights. And it was not just curator it was all the boss fights.

Now let’s hear you post the same response you have been saying to try and prove you are so much better then me. And just to let you know I do not think you are paying attention to my post or the questions I am asking because I have not gotten a true response from you.

All I want is a bias response saying if your mana regeneration has been less now that patch 2.4 is out or not and not just in boss fights.

PMEL (Precision Measurement Equipment Laboratory)


Edited, Apr 1st 2008 9:12am by toddtari

I am not saying that all I want to know is if this is just happening to me or dose anyone else see this?

PMEL (Precision Measurement Equipment Laboratory)

I agree with Aethien, I did some testing last night and noticed no significant change in my mana regen rates during combat. So, all that potential loss was nothing to me, at least that I noticed.

I even did some grinding and 'questing' and found I had to take mana breaks at the same places with AotH on instead of AotV. I switched to AotV and it took me a shot or two more to kill something but I was never OOM.

That was all normal. So the 'nerf' isn't much of a 'nerf' if there is one at all. I take back anything I said to the contrary.

All these people who are talking about going OOM during a boss fight, when they didn't before the patch just need to log out, and hit "Delete character"

Seriously, why don't you read a little bit more about the mechanics of a change before you just start jumping in with the initial crowd of QQers? If you are, and always have been playing your hunter to its full potential, you did NOT see a decrease in your mana pool, and you're NOT running out of mana any faster. Your Mana regen WHILE NOT CASTING was nerfed. This should not effect you in any way shape or form while raiding. The only time it should be bothersome is during solo grinding... BUT OH NOEZ! WE'RE A LITTLE LESS OP! WE HAVE TO PLAN OUR FIGHTS AND ACTUALLY SIT TO EAT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.

I'm reading through the article on wowinsider that you linked, and there are a few things that make me say "wtf?"

i.e.:

Uh...right. So an ability that has regen that scales with intellect does not require stacking of intellect? That's like saying that since arcane shot has a base damage, we don't need to stack attack power to buff it.

Does this guy know that intellect does not buff pets at all, even if caster pets? Caster pets simply have higher base intellect (which does not scale) which does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Even though I don't play my hunter much anymore (love the class, dont love the realm it's on), but simple math should tell you that hunters should NOT have been hit on raid DPS. If you're going OOM, seek a more mana-efficient shot rotation, use AotV "Oh no I lose some DPS!" Well guess what, other classes sacrifice DPS or HPS for longevity, you might as well too.

Yeah, scribs that guy was basically an idiot.

So to discuss specifics.

1) Viper has nothing to do with spirit. So your regen due to viper was completely unchanged by the spirit change.

2) Spirit has absolutely no effect on mana regen while fighting a boss. So your regen in a boss fight was completely unchanged by the spirit change.

3)When you're ginding or doing trash you will spend time out of the 5 second rule, this is the only time we get spirit based mana regen, so this is the only time we would notice the spirit change.

I have not noticed any difference in mana use on the 2 kara runs I have done since the patch.

So as I said before, anyone noticing a change with mana use or regen during combat is either making things up in their head, or has a different unrelated issue. Perhaps something is wrong with your character that you have not realised, We're not saying what you noticed is invalid, we're saying that your reasoning is flawed and you need to look for another cause.

You will notice more mana use on trash, simply because your regen due to spirit is lower, but this is not connected to boss fights.

skribs...

Unless you are making a pun on the concept of growl, it would be "moot", but mute is entirely more funny and I approve!

LOL!

The whole good thing about charge was that the bonus applied to growl, and because growl scales with AP you'd get a huge growl off.