Thats right Shaggy, but only as a Sham.....lol...:)
My question is very simple....I think! I just hit my 18th birthday(LvL18), and for the most part have been solo to this point. I work crazy hours, so my game time is between 2am and 5am (not alot of groups on at that time). Anyway, I've read the all valuable Shaman info at the top of this forum, and although it has a plethera of excellent info, theres a few details missing between "What a Shaman is" and "once you hit LvL 60". Soooo, Im trying the suggested solo tree "Elem", but at my LvL, what are the best totums to drop. I only have a few at this point, but Im not sure which is the most effective at this point, any suggestions would be appreciated.
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From 1-60 the solo tree is basically enhancement (although around 39 elemental starts to pick up reasonable damage). From 60+ once you collect enough Outlands +dmg gear, Elemental will be better.
For totems you'll tend to only drop them when you can make them mana efficient (ie when you can get 2-3 pulls of benefit out of them; and ideally when you can make them last the full duration without pulling mobs a ridiculously far distance to do so.) Basically you'll have Searing totem, melee totems (SOE+GOA), and Healing Stream, in about that order of priority (pulls where you don't think you can make the totems last long you won't drop a full spread of totems, whereas Searing totem becomes mana efficient with less than 6 attacks).
To deal more melee damage, get more Attack Power. You get 2 AP per Strength.
In groups, you can main heal any dungeon til Outlands content without being Resto spec, but be sure to accumulate as much +healing gear as you can (having a 2nd set of armor becomes gradually more crucial as you level.) Picking up just 5/5 Imp Healing Wave (tier 1 resto talent) will drastically increase your ability to heal, as Healing Wave is your main mana efficient heal (Lesser Healing Wave is intended for emergencies, and to avoid overhealing).
For totems you'll tend to only drop them when you can make them mana efficient (ie when you can get 2-3 pulls of benefit out of them; and ideally when you can make them last the full duration without pulling mobs a ridiculously far distance to do so.) Basically you'll have Searing totem, melee totems (SOE+GOA), and Healing Stream, in about that order of priority (pulls where you don't think you can make the totems last long you won't drop a full spread of totems, whereas Searing totem becomes mana efficient with less than 6 attacks).
To deal more melee damage, get more Attack Power. You get 2 AP per Strength.
In groups, you can main heal any dungeon til Outlands content without being Resto spec, but be sure to accumulate as much +healing gear as you can (having a 2nd set of armor becomes gradually more crucial as you level.) Picking up just 5/5 Imp Healing Wave (tier 1 resto talent) will drastically increase your ability to heal, as Healing Wave is your main mana efficient heal (Lesser Healing Wave is intended for emergencies, and to avoid overhealing).
What Axehilt said, except...
No, it isn't. Enhancement is still your single best leveling option from 10-70. Elemental becomes viable at 60+ (62 to be specific), but it's only going to match Enhancement at best; it's never going to be a better option for solo grinding, questing, and leveling.
Axehilt wrote:
From 60+ once you collect enough Outlands +dmg gear, Elemental will be better.
No, it isn't. Enhancement is still your single best leveling option from 10-70. Elemental becomes viable at 60+ (62 to be specific), but it's only going to match Enhancement at best; it's never going to be a better option for solo grinding, questing, and leveling.
Gaudion wrote:
What Axehilt said, except...
No, it isn't. Enhancement is still your single best leveling option from 10-70. Elemental becomes viable at 60+ (62 to be specific), but it's only going to match Enhancement at best; it's never going to be a better option for solo grinding, questing, and leveling.
Axehilt wrote:
From 60+ once you collect enough Outlands +dmg gear, Elemental will be better.
No, it isn't. Enhancement is still your single best leveling option from 10-70. Elemental becomes viable at 60+ (62 to be specific), but it's only going to match Enhancement at best; it's never going to be a better option for solo grinding, questing, and leveling.
I could be wrong, but I read it as Axehilt saying that Elemental at 60+ will be better than Elemental at 1-59, not that Elemental at 60+ will be better than Enhancement at 60+.
Raglu wrote:
I could be wrong, but I read it as Axehilt saying that Elemental at 60+ will be better than Elemental at 1-59, not that Elemental at 60+ will be better than Enhancement at 60+.
He could be, but based on recent comments, I doubt it. I could be wrong (love to be, actually), but his stance in the last Elemental vs. Enhancement debate in a thread yesterday was that Elemental was superior in every way.
Yes, as long as "superior in every way" translates to "slightly faster 60->70 leveling spec than Enhancement".
I happy to say I have 64 shaman. I have level as element shaman all the way. I sorry to disagree with Gaudion. But its is not that hard to level as element shaman. I have friend who is enhancement shaman even he had to admit that level as just as easy as him. I sorry but that a myth that you have wait before go into element build or it will be so hard before a certain level. Now with that said I would tell should stay with which every style suit you and if not sure try out different styles. PS don't agree with shaman can be main healer if they are not resto. at any level if try that will not get alot of invites to 5 man dungeons. I think we make great off healer for 5 man dungeons.
This was posted some time ago:
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=35478&stream=Google
It's a 62 elemental (51/2/0) shaman AoE-grinding in Hellfire. It obviously makes use of the Improved Fire Nova Totem and Call of Flame talents for specifically AoE grinding.
Uses plenty of Fire Nova Totem, Stone Claw Totem, Magma Totem, Chain Lightning, and I'm not sure which heals. It's not near the capacity that frost mages do, but it's pretty fast grinding.
If you don't like the music, I'd suggest watching silently. It's still pretty impressive, if in low quality.
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=35478&stream=Google
It's a 62 elemental (51/2/0) shaman AoE-grinding in Hellfire. It obviously makes use of the Improved Fire Nova Totem and Call of Flame talents for specifically AoE grinding.
Uses plenty of Fire Nova Totem, Stone Claw Totem, Magma Totem, Chain Lightning, and I'm not sure which heals. It's not near the capacity that frost mages do, but it's pretty fast grinding.
If you don't like the music, I'd suggest watching silently. It's still pretty impressive, if in low quality.
Axehilt wrote:
Yes, as long as "superior in every way" translates to "slightly faster 60->70 leveling spec than Enhancement".
It does. It's also still incorrect no matter how many times you say it.
Does it really matter which is faster? It's the journey, not the destination. Fellow shamans: level however you want.
Besides, whether ele or enh levels quicker can't even be quantitatively measured: there are just too many variables due to spell rotations, gear, specific builds, rate of mana usage/drinking, etc. All we're left with is anecdotes and speculation that cannot be proved. Let's just leave it at "personal preference".
Besides, whether ele or enh levels quicker can't even be quantitatively measured: there are just too many variables due to spell rotations, gear, specific builds, rate of mana usage/drinking, etc. All we're left with is anecdotes and speculation that cannot be proved. Let's just leave it at "personal preference".
OMG..........did you guyz actually read my question.....Im only lvl 18 at the moment. Ive got 2 fire totums and I think 2 earth, or something like that. Anyway, I'm solo playing.........so....which of the ones I have are gonna be most effective for me?
Heh, we got a little derailed.
Searing is a great little DoT on a stick, use that for single targets. Fire Nova and Magma aren't worth the mana cost until you have 3 or more mobs.
Strength of Earth is okay if you're enhancement, pretty useless for elemental. Stoneskin is "meh" for leveling; use it against quick-attacking physical mobs, but often times it isn't worth it. Stoneclaw is good for distracting an add but be sure not to do ANYTHING to that mob first as stoneclaw's agro generation isn't too good.
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Ive got 2 fire totums and I think 2 earth
Searing is a great little DoT on a stick, use that for single targets. Fire Nova and Magma aren't worth the mana cost until you have 3 or more mobs.
Strength of Earth is okay if you're enhancement, pretty useless for elemental. Stoneskin is "meh" for leveling; use it against quick-attacking physical mobs, but often times it isn't worth it. Stoneclaw is good for distracting an add but be sure not to do ANYTHING to that mob first as stoneclaw's agro generation isn't too good.
Answered the question in the first reply: basically use whichever of the 4 totems that I listed which you have access to currently.
There is a "best rotation" that can be quantitatively found for either playstyle. It may vary slightly per mob type, and it may be hard to calculate given all the factors, but it does exist.
It's understandable if you say you don't care enough about finding it, but to say it doesn't even exist is incorrect.
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Besides, whether ele or enh levels quicker can't even be quantitatively measured: there are just too many variables due to spell rotations, gear, specific builds, rate of mana usage/drinking, etc. All we're left with is anecdotes and speculation that cannot be proved. Let's just leave it at "personal preference".
There is a "best rotation" that can be quantitatively found for either playstyle. It may vary slightly per mob type, and it may be hard to calculate given all the factors, but it does exist.
It's understandable if you say you don't care enough about finding it, but to say it doesn't even exist is incorrect.
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Does it really matter which is faster? It's the journey, not the destination. Fellow shamans: level however you want.
IM with you on that!
If this is your first character, the game is boat loads of fun, take your time to 70 stop and smell the flowers. :)
Cherish every dead worg, every sip of sweet nectar. :) Sounds silly but I did the first time through, and Im currently doing it my 3rd time through.
Viduss....thx for taking the time to reply. That is very helpful info. I also appreciate all the other posts, and will use your adivce as I grow. My first character is a BE lock, and I refused to start a second until I hit 70. It's true, take your time and enjoy the game, don't worry if you don't do every quest, and always be willing to help out other players. Now that I've started my second toon, all the folks that I've helped with my lock are always willing to give it back.........ya gotta love this game.
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