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#52 Mar 28 2008 at 1:31 PM Rating: Default
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You don't like me much do you? I was asking for a suggestion on a hybrid 41/20 that would work for someone focused on beginning raiding that pvp's on the side without having to respec each week. Apparently your comprehension skills are lacking. If that build doesn't exist...just say so. I tooled around with it and this is the build I thought might be viable.
#53 Mar 28 2008 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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ThomasMagnum wrote:
You don't like me much do you? I was asking for a suggestion on a hybrid 41/20 that would work for someone focused on beginning raiding that pvp's on the side without having to respec each week. Apparently your comprehension skills are lacking. If that build doesn't exist...just say so. I tooled around with it and this is the build I thought might be viable.

I already solved your dilemma for you. You're asking for a build that I already gave you.

You're the one with the comprehension problem here, not me.

Read the @#%^ing posts, do your homework, and learn how to @#%^ing spec.

EDIT: I'm copypasta'ing the part of the post that you didn't read here, because you're that much of an idiot that I think you'd go back and read right over it.

Overlord Theophany wrote:
A typical Mut PvP build that are used today in arena looks like this. A Mut/combat build for arena (typically used in 5s, not so much in 2s or 3s) looks like this.


Though you'd be better off just using the PvE mut build that I suggested in the first place than trying to make a hybrid, because hybrids are just fail/fail at PvE/PvP, whereas a primarily PvE mut build will be good/fail.

You take one over the other with every build.

So in the end, you're a @#%^ing moron, don't know Richard about your class, and you have reading problems.

Edit2: Oh, and after looking at your armory, you don't know **** about gemming either.

Edited, Mar 28th 2008 3:00pm by Theophany
#54 Mar 29 2008 at 12:51 AM Rating: Default
Go with whatever build you think you will enjoy. If your guild/team starts demanding you respec because your build isn't optimal, then leave and find a guild/team with members who have lives.
#55 Mar 29 2008 at 1:16 AM Rating: Decent
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iamnotatree wrote:
Go with whatever build you think you will enjoy. If your guild/team starts demanding you respec because your build isn't optimal, then leave and find a guild/team with members who have lives.

I love this mentality. The team succeeds at arena when you can't, ergo they have no life.

Playing an hour's worth of arena on the weekends is hard, bro.
#56 Mar 29 2008 at 1:21 AM Rating: Default
Read it again. Team demands you respec, ergo they have no lives.
#57 Mar 29 2008 at 1:32 AM Rating: Decent
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iamnotatree wrote:
Read it again. Team demands you respec, ergo they have no lives.


Or, more accurately, if your team forces you to respec, they are d*ckfaces and you should punch them in the feet.
#58 Mar 29 2008 at 6:43 AM Rating: Good
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If your team is any serious with arena, they would never let you play with a PvE spec...

I wouldn't like dropping from 2k rating just because my priest was lazy and stayed holy...
#59 Mar 29 2008 at 10:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Hahahaha I got to Theo I guess. Dude you need to chill out a bit and not take everything so seriously. I have two diff. sets of gear, and I don't ever know which is on the armory. One is geared +hit +AP, the other geared +stam +Agi. You guess which is which in your infinite genius, you f***ing dunce. I'll state it one more time - I was looking for an answer, and in a roundabout way you answered it - there is no viable pve/pvp build for a guy like me who isn't on a 1900's arena team. That's all you had to say, shi$head.
#60 Mar 29 2008 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
ThomasMagnum wrote:
Hahahaha I got to Theo I guess. Dude you need to chill out a bit and not take everything so seriously. I have two diff. sets of gear, and I don't ever know which is on the armory. One is geared +hit +AP, the other geared +stam +Agi. You guess which is which in your infinite genius, you f***ing dunce. I'll state it one more time - I was looking for an answer, and in a roundabout way you answered it - there is no viable pve/pvp build for a guy like me who isn't on a 1900's arena team. That's all you had to say, shi$head.


Irony is nothing to do with metallurgy.
#61 Mar 29 2008 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
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ThomasMagnum wrote:
Hahahaha I got to Theo I guess. Dude you need to chill out a bit and not take everything so seriously. I have two diff. sets of gear, and I don't ever know which is on the armory. One is geared +hit +AP, the other geared +stam +Agi. You guess which is which in your infinite genius, you f***ing dunce. I'll state it one more time - I was looking for an answer, and in a roundabout way you answered it - there is no viable pve/pvp build for a guy like me who isn't on a 1900's arena team. That's all you had to say, shi$head.

That's all I said until you started acting like a teenage girl on her period.

Whine more, moron. Whine more.
#62 Mar 29 2008 at 9:46 PM Rating: Default
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Whatever Theo I wasn't trying to start a flame war just looking for some advice.
#63 Mar 30 2008 at 12:19 AM Rating: Good
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ThomasMagnum wrote:
Whatever Theo I wasn't trying to start a flame war just looking for some advice.

Then when I give you advice you flame me?

I see.
#64 Mar 30 2008 at 4:14 AM Rating: Good
There's really no need for all this. Thomas, Theo did kind of answer your question, and Theo, you were unnecessarily rude in answering it. Lets leave it at that and get on with some worthwhile discussion.

Thomas, the build you posted does have a few holes. In detail:

1) There is nothing in the first tier of combat that makes a blind bit of difference to PvE. Since you want a build that does both, pick up the one talent that makes a difference in PvP; Improved Gouge.

2) Improved Eviscerate is a waste of points end-game. For PvE your finishers of choice are Slice and Dice first and Rupture second; for PvP Kidney Shot is your friend. In neither will you be using Eviscerate enough to warrant 3 points in there. You'll probably want this for leveling though, and you'll have to respec at 70 anyway (as you should be ***/Sub for leveling, then ***/Com for 70).

3) Improved Kidney Shot is godly for PvP. If you want a build that does both, I reckon you should favour a PvP Mut/Com build rather than a strictly PvE one, as you're trading a mild dip in PvE damage for a big boost in PvP ability. Fleet Footed should probably be taken for the same reason.

You're not going to top damage meters this way, but you won't anyway unless you're the best geared of your fellows.
#65 Mar 30 2008 at 7:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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tl;dr version:

ThomasMagnum: Hai guys, wut is 6 - 2?

Overlord Theophany: rofl noob, 2x2 = 4

ThomasMagnum: But wut is 6 - 2?

Overlord Theophany: omg I told u, 2x2 = 4, l2read

ThomasMagnum: omg Theo u suk

Overlord Theophany: no u
#66 Mar 31 2008 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Whatever Theo what about your edit comment about me knowing richard about gemming. You're the queen of flames and you know you enjoy it. I'm not wasting any more of yours or my time asking for some friendly advice, I'll find it elsewhere.
#67 Mar 31 2008 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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ThomasMagnum wrote:
Whatever Theo what about your edit comment about me knowing richard about gemming. You're the queen of flames and you know you enjoy it. I'm not wasting any more of yours or my time asking for some friendly advice, I'll find it elsewhere.

I've posted multiple times about gemming, both here and on the oboards.
#68 Mar 31 2008 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Alright alright, can we be buddies now?
#69 Mar 31 2008 at 2:39 PM Rating: Good
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zhaharik wrote:
tl;dr version:

HAHAHAHAHAA!!!! Spot on!
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