New 5-man dungeon: No Gear ?Follow

I may be wrong here...but according to what the wiki says, there aren't any tank-plate drops in either the regular or heroic versions of the new 5-man instance. I checked the drops in heroic and regular from the 4 bosses...saw some dps plate, but no tank gear.
Are we being avoided?
I kind of feel like tanks are being very confined in the manner they can get gear upgrades.
We can't BG or arena for tanking gear.
My guild is just starting to push through Kara, I find myself praying for a random upgrade from there...otherwise nada.

Am I missing something? Or are we being forgotten.

Where's the party? Someone sure brought a lot of whine...

Look, this game is absolutely crawling with tank plate. You've got only tank plate in Kara, spare for the odd boots or what ever... only really qualifies as hybird gear anyway. Are tanking warriors being forgotten? No. Are the frustrating lack of DPS plate gear from 5-man instances brought to justice? Yes.

Stop focusing on the stuff you haven't got. Instead, try to see the vast itemization for tanking warriors in every raid pre-SSC. Oh, and you CAN arena for tanking gear. S3 Chest is the best you'll get until post-kara.

you can also build an entire tanking set of T4/T5 quality gear from crafted gear (engineering tanking goggles), s1 gear (shoulders, shield) and badge gear (wrist, hands, legs, and tankadin chest and feet). i am not able to raid on a regular basis, so i took matters into my own hands. when the T4 helm finally dropped from prince, i already had better gear (eng goggles).

It's nice to go into a dungeon with the knowledge that something has a chance of dropping for you..not the "oh this is a dps plate dungeon" mindset etc..

Edited, Mar 25th 2008 1:26pm by jaylexx

No tank gear (well, the cape is debatable)? Admittedly it's not plate, but then there's no Healing Cloth either and none of them are whining about their badass new staff.

jaylexx I would advise stopping while your ahead.

Utarius is very knowledgable and will continue slapping you around until you stop saying things that are obviously not in complete truth.

I haven't even looked at the gear and can tell you my friend has already set an easy lay out on how to gear up as a tank.

Don't cry about incompitence. Fix it.

*EDIT* typing this quickly tends to make mistakes... like peoples name =P

Edited, Mar 25th 2008 2:09pm by HitashLevat

W00ps lol. Ill fix it for ya =P

Perhaps you missed the armor/stam/expertise ring?

Perhaps you missed the expertise trinket?

Perhaps you missed the stam trinket that can boost your dodge when you get low on health?

There may not be any dodge/parry/defense plate armor, but to say there is absolutely nothing in the dungeon that you would equip is either ignorant or just outright stupid.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. Since you're so anxious to have your point proven, I will follow through.



I'm posting a flaming post due to whine which was unwarranted in several ways. While I'm happy for you that your sense of good manners somehow manages to overthrow your sense of logic, you are in no position what-so-ever to lecture me about forum posting (though you may of course try).


Actually, I'm right in all my points and whether you think those points are lost in some made up age-diss that you feel you must enforce, for whatever compensation that gives you, or not is completely irrelevant to me. I will not post faulty information just because it hurts the sense you think you posses. Nor will I wrap it up in subtleties that aren't deserved.


Are you retarded? Maybe just a bad reader... I've never said you should tank in full PvP gear. I've only said just what you're saying; that you can swap in PvP gear into your tanking set and get better stats than you would with the plate drops in your current level of PvE. How am I wrong in saying that? I know several experienced tanks agree with me on this, and I believe it more wrong to say that you cannot PvP to get gear that's good for tanking.




I consider myself a casual gamer (mainly because I don't get to raid at all atm, and when I did it wasn't at the extent I wanted to), but then again we all have different views of that. While I can understand your wish to expand the loot table, I can't say I share the views. I think it'd be a waste if all bosses in an instance dropped tanking boots. Expanding the loot table would as you say lead to reduced drop rates over, and that's something I really don't want to see.


Yet all those upgrades are elsewhere, multiple times over. Just because you're limited (at the moment) to a very small amount of PvE content shouldn't mean that they shape the game around that.



Tbh I didn't even check those loot tables (or I would've seen there are upgrades). What got me worked up was that you were insinuating that there isn't enough tanking plate in 5-mans. Something that is blankly false.

We're all stuck with not always getting upgrades for all the slots we want. However, there's no imbalance in the game's itemization so far, as far as I'm concerned. Some slots are harder to get. Some classes are harder to gear up. There are tons of examples, but non of them so unfair that it deserves reworking.

i don't get to raid as often as i want to either, but i got the 75 badge tanking legs and feet with badges earned before i did a few karas, my shoulders and belt are from heroics, and though i bought my badge bracers with kara-farmed badges, i could have just as easily farmed them doing the same heroics i got the badges from for my legs and feet. also, the new badge plate items (dps and tanking) are frickin superb, and i foresee more badge farming in the future.

l2tank heroic SP/UB/mech/ramps. that's 14 badges a day in about 4 hours if you have a good group.

4 hours? Geez...I'm talking casual as in 1 instance per night..3 nights per week. I guess that's also my point, some of us have to choose wisely where to spend their gaming time.

I think that the ability to acquire epic gear via badges is a great idea..blizzard did a great job with that.

I still maintain that an expanded loot table in regular and heroic versions would benefit much more than it would hurt. How nice would it be for a boss to drop something that isn't on their regular loot table. It wouldn't force you to do the same damn dungeon over and over again hoping for 'that drop'.
For instance, how many times have people ran h-mech just to get the Sun Eater...they could have been exploring an array of different heroics if there was a chance that they could get a similar drop from any of them.

Wow. this is full of lawls.

I totally must have missed this threat in my haste to completely ignore WoW for the last month.

But, I think the OP was noticing the lack of PLATE drops in sunwell.

There are tanking items that drop. But from wowwiki's site I see no direct plate tanking gear. In fact much of the plate looks like hybrid or pali gear.

There is plenty of other tanking gear from many other instances. And was said earlier; Kara has every tanking piece you can think of.

My advice to the OP, keep grinding out Kara, and do some heroics that drop the gear you want. You'll get the good gear eventually, but it takes time and effort to get it.

You could try a different group leader from when you start Kara, different loot tables for different character classes that lead raids. I only got my King's Defender, and my Panzar'Thar Breastplate after 5-6 months of grinding Kara, the last run we ever did in Kara. I insisted on being raid leader, and it was the first time I was the 'raid leader' even though I had been MT for ~7 months for the guild. And low and behold, all my tanking gear drops that week.