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#1 Mar 25 2008 at 8:19 AM Rating: Decent
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I am a lvl 50 Hunter, that just respecced from MM to BM so I can lvl faster. My problem is that I have no clue what I need to be doing in every fight with the new skills that I have. I have gone all the way through the BM tree and will be working on the MM tree next. I am just curious as to what "routine" other hunters go through that will maximize that dps my Pet and I can do.


Edited, Mar 25th 2008 1:05pm by MaxFischer
#2 Mar 25 2008 at 8:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Beastial wrath whenever its up, and at the beginning of a fight. Most times, it lasts longer than it takes to kill one mob, so I used to pull two things at a time and throw it on.

Intimidation whenever you need a good aggro spike. Never really needed it that much outside of instances to save clothies, but if I pulled an add or two early in the fight and wanted to throw one down quickly, I would throw on intimidation on and hit rapid fire. If it was later in the fight(first mob below 50%), I might throw rapid fire on, DPS the first one down quickly, and throw intimidation on the next mob as soon as I could.

Alternatively, I've found intimidation great when fighting elite mobs regularly saved for group quests. Throw mend pet on, start the fight, and if your pet is close to dead, hit intimidation. It'll give your pet a few more seconds to gain health back, or it could give you time to pull him back to you and drop a freezing trap.

Other than that, keep pew pewing?
#3 Mar 25 2008 at 8:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Are you talking about in instances or in solo.

If your talking in instances, you should be keeping BW on CD. If your good at handling your pet intimidate the mobs off the healer or to stun a mob hitting the tank if he gets critically low if it comes to it.

Basically until you hit outlands there really isn't much difference in what your doing. When in boss fights make sure you use rapid fire (watch your aggro still.)

There really isn't to much difference with the 2 specs until end game for you to notice a big change. Only thing is trapping mobs and rezing your pet will be a snap. Healing your pet up will also be easier.

If you want any more info please be a little more specific.

(also don't assume someone is going to rant at you for a question that doesn't even look like it needs that. I would recommend editing that out of your post to avoid the rant about it.)

*EDIT* Miss typed off instead of on for BW.

Edited, Mar 25th 2008 9:36am by HitashLevat
#4 Mar 25 2008 at 9:04 AM Rating: Decent
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MaxFischer wrote:
My problem is that I have no clue what I need to be doing in every fight with the new skills that I have.

What did you do before you specced BM? What abilities did you use?

I honestly can't see much difference in the playstyle if you were doing it 'right'. Other than having to kite your pet less and standing back and shooting some more.

Please be more specific about how you went about killing mobs when you were MM.

MaxFischer wrote:
I have gone all the way through the BM tree and will be working on the MM tree next. I am just curious as to what "routine" other hunters go through that will maximize that dps my Pet and I can do.

Maximizing your DPS for each pull won't be necessary as BM, even though it was as MM. You'll do more damage as BM than you ever did as MM if you just stand back and keep a steady Arcane and Multi- rotation.

If you're talking about specials pulls where you have to maximize your DPS, like when taking down elite mobs or other, there're some things you can do to make it go smoother.
- If your pet is tanking, send it in with Mend Pet ticking, and use Intimidation once it's done (after that you can reapply Mend Pet, FD and blast away:).
- Pop Bestial Wrath.
- Pop any trinkets available.
- Pop Rapid Fire.
- Make sure to apply DPS helpers such as Serpent Sting, since they get to finish ticking on longer pulls (thus making them worthwhile), when Multi- and Arcane are on CD.
- Using DPS Traps can also be useful, but the CD might neglect you a getaway.

This is all I can think of to 'maximize' your DPS. You won't be needing to do this on regular pulls though. If your pet and you are specced right, that'll take care of any pull with non-elite mobs in it. Even if there's 6 of them.



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#5 Mar 25 2008 at 9:16 AM Rating: Decent
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That pretty much covers my questions. Thanks for the quick reply. I do have one more question though. What do you recommend my pet being specced with? Right now he, a boar, has charge and growl for attacks, and he has rank 8 stamina, and rank 7 armor (or maybe the other way around).

I respecced him once after I noticed that I could get him more armor and stamina if I didn't use points on some of the things I had. ie, just because I bought the training for a skill doesn't mean I have to use points to teach him the skill.
#6 Mar 25 2008 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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Check Petopia for the highest levels of Bite and Gore available, and get those. Bite is the best non-scaling pet damage ability in terms of DPF. Gore is a focus dump that will greatly increase your pets DPS and threat.

Also, in terms of mitigation, Stamina is generally more worthwhile than armour. The thing is you can't have the highest rank of Great Stamina and Natural Armour trained as the same time, so in the end you'll have to make a choice. Try to always have your Great Stamina maxed out. Be mindful of when you get your next rank, and try to always have TP ready to buy it.

Imo, DPS skills comes before mitigations skills though, so keep those up to date as well. And don't bother with the Resistances, those are highly situational and as such should only be specced if you're using your pet for a specific purpose, rather than in general.
#7 Mar 25 2008 at 11:33 AM Rating: Good
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I have 1 pet for armor and 1 for resistances. The reason behind this is in PvP I know my pet will die quickly to a warrior no matter how much it tries to stay alive with armor and health.

However a mage can't burn down my pet when it resists half of his stuff. I love seeing FN resist on my pet and it keeps nippin at the mage =D

But again. That is situational.
#8 Mar 25 2008 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, non BM hunter (and even BM hunters now that I think of it...) will benefit from speccing frost, shadow and arcane resistance in arenas.

Arcane because this will push AE and other arcane mage attacks down to almost nothing along with avoidance. The sheep resist are nice too, when the real players in the team starts to get heavy DR's, the mage might want to pacify the annoying little thing pushing back the healer's casts. Yeah... think again, hehe.

Shadow of the same reason really. Resisted fear is always nice when you've used BW. Also the resisted DoT's will be a nuisance for the warlock who's just trying to get rid of the pet.

Frost due to resisted FN (unluckily, pee on foot doesn't work) and the fact that 90% of the arena mages are frost and therefore that's their primary damage source.

They whole idea of stable slots is to spec pets for different roles and situations. If you only keep one PvP pet (like me) you'll be glad that pet respecs are only 10s and reset every day.
#9 Mar 25 2008 at 1:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Utarius wrote:

They whole idea of stable slots is to spec pets for different roles and situations. If you only keep one PvP pet (like me) you'll be glad that pet respecs are only 10s and reset every day.


QFT.
#10 Mar 25 2008 at 1:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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shadow, Frost, Arcane and nature the last one especially in 2v2 where druids are in half the arena teams.
And nothing beats a resisted root/cyclone to prevent the druid from drinking >:)


After dmg abilities i spread out points through those 4 resists (more shadow and nature because of the higher numbers of druids and locks/priests in arena) and stamina.
Armor is pretty useless and stamina is very nice to have some of, but it wont save your pet for very long.
If someone wants your pet dead it will die, its much more useful to counter CCing of your pet.

Edited, Mar 26th 2008 12:02am by Aethien
#11 Mar 25 2008 at 2:09 PM Rating: Good
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Very true indeed, forgot about them carebears.
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