Warriors best/worst friendFollow

Let's get to the point.
I was going to make a warrior, simply because they seem to be the class to rock others worlds. :)
I knew that one of my friends was already a warrior, that was okay, but now I find out that ANOTHER friend reroll'd a warrior too! So beeing 3 warriors wouldn't be too great since we plan to play together.

Now, I what I would like to know, is what class simply owns warriors? What class makes the warrior run for their money? (I do hear paladin, anything except those?)
And also, what goes hand in hand with a warrior?

Yes the first might make no sense.. but as I know my friends, we will always be trying to outdo ourselves, so heheh. Might as well "cheat" :)
Oh and, this is PvP wise.
So when I mean hand in hand I don't mean to kill off some mobs together. Hand in hand as in, my friend destroys everything in sight, and I am there to help in the best way
(I won't say heal, because I'm not 100% sure that's the best help)

Oh, almost forgot, are rogues really THAT squishy for a warrior?
I saw a video of a warrior taking down 3 rogues.. 2 geared, 1 random one..
Or can a rogue wtih skill take down a warrior?

I'm a Feral Druid with some crappy healing gear, but I teamed up with a S3 Warrior last night in Warsong Gulch and completely wasted the enemies. I simply kept Rejuvenation and Lifebloom on him and used Regrowth once in a while for the fast heal and extra HoT.

He was decked in full S3 and before I ran low on mana, he managed to take out five or six of the Horde players. They then zerged him and there was nothing I could do. Innervate to regain mana, shift to Cat form and Prowl away.

Doing 2,500 damage Shred crits and such is awesome, but keeping another player alive long enough to take out five players where the two of us would've only taken out maybe two had I not been healing.. that's awesome.

I love having a Pali by my side but if I had to pick a DPS class I would say a hunter or a rogue. Both eat mages.

And Mages being the hardest class for us in my opinion being able to have a defense against them is very nice however, if you have a pali running with you their Blessing of Freedom can help with the rooting and slowing effects of the mage long enough to get ahold of them and make quick work of them as well..

I like how enhancement shaman compliment warriors, at least imo. I had a friend who rolled an enh. shammie and we pretty much raped in the BG's. Arena, not so hot...but you gotta start somewhere. The AP buff, the increased totems, backup heals, insane burst dmg, it was great. As for the totems, he was good at laying down the grounding totem to eat nasty caster stuff. I was in a BG with a T6 d/w Enhancement Shaman and we completely owned everything in sight (I'm a fury warrior, neither of us has pvp gear, and it wasn't a premade, but he and I were from the same server).

Paladins are nice too with BoP and buffs, and 3% crit or w/e from Retadins. Druids are nice...basically any hybrid class will be nice for a warrior in some way, shape and form. You'll get some form of healing that will be benificial at times, and its great for lvling too.

I like to fight with mages. Hold agro as tank and let the mage do the killing.
Reminds me about book I liked, there was brothers Caramon(war) and Raistlin(mage).

hmm... need to find those books and read them again :P

Edited, Mar 27th 2008 9:03am by WarriorToughFist

Well heres what I've learned in my pvp experience.

Rogues- Piece of cake. Just wait out their stun you then burst damage you, then smash em up. I've only encountered a couple rogues that have gotten the best of me.

Druids- I absolutely hate moonkins. In any other form I destroy druids. MS to keep their heals in check and piercing howl to keep them from running off to heal. But moonkins always kick the crud out of me.

Paladins- If its a good ret pally then I usually can't beat them. Holy and prot I almost always come out on top but only after a long drawn out battle. The smart ones know not to stun an arms warrior. Especially one with 12k hp.

Mages- Frost mage>Me everytime. I get maybe 1 or 2 hits on them before I get creamed. Some are good and keep me locked down the entire time. Others are stupid and try to get huge crits that take too much time. Fire mages on the other hand are fun. When they start to charge up their pyro I quickly shield up and reflect. They usually one shot themselves. My holy priest however owns mages.

Warlocks- If I remember to use death wish and my int shout actually fears their pet, then I usually win . Otherwise I get destroyed and they still have full health. The vast majority of the time I get stomped by warlocks.

Hunters- 2 very important tools for fighting hunters. Demoralizing shout and piercing howl. Destroy the pets AP and keep that hunter within melee range. Most hunters panic when they get stuck in melee combat and can't run away. On open ground I stomp the crap out of hunters. IF its a really really good hunter with obstacles to jump around and auto shot on, I might lose but not likely. Remember the term huntard isn't a joke. Being able to solo mobs and level fast made hunters very cocky. They are used to let pet attack/be attacked, and auto shot. Doesn't work in pvp.

Priests- It depends on where you are fighting them. If you are near a cliff you are screwed. Otherwise it only takes 1 hit to break their bubble and then chase them around till they die.

Shamans- I don't think I've ever had any problems with shaman.

So i think the classes warriors can beat easily are hunters, druids, shamans and rogues. Mages, warlocks and good paladins own warriors in my opinion. But it all depends on the skill of the player in the end.

Rogues: Own warriors 1 v 1 --> There is a way to beat them. Just walk backwards, with this system I has won every 1 vs 1 against rogues. I am DEF line.

I hate shammys in 1 vs 1.

I respecced arms for a day, had no PVP gear on but the S1 greatsword, Rogues were pretty much the only class i smashed up 1v1.

Was engaged by a full S3 rogue while i had 60% HP, fortunately I got a charge off, fight was over before it started.

I honestly have to disagree with the statement about locks owning warriors. It's all fine and dandy if you forget your fear breaking moves. Then yeah... Expect to die. But I have tangled with a few 70 warlocks (don't believe they were in pvp gear... or at least the epic stuff) and I crushed them.

Popped death wish as soon as I saw that fear cast start.

switched to zerker stance. pop my blood/zerker rage (macro) lay a hamstring and a mortal strike and it's almost GG. The poor sap can't get away and I am all over them. It's really great when they hit me with a death coil just to have me intercept them right as soon as it breaks. (IF and only if they last longer than my zerkers rage I pop my 30 min CD.)

Haven't taken on any Epic locks without heal support though.

The only time in a BG I don't like facing a warrior is when it isn't 1vs1.
Cooldowns have to be up too. lol
Is it an arms warrior that duel wields? Anyhow. I've never had a problem killing the duel wielding Warriors. The two handed weapon users on the hand give me a little problem.
Cheap shot is 3 seconds, toss in a Mutilate. Follow it up with a 5 second Kidney shot. Two more mutilates. By then I usually have 1 more second left on the KS if he hasn't trinketed. Gouge. Yea another 2 to 3 seconds. Throw Blind@ the warrior.
/dance with the warrior. Poison ticks, Blind is finished. KS is cooled down again.
lol I wonder how many warriors were mad at me for the /dance in a BG.

The dual wielding warriors are usually fury spec, can't really understand why anyone would fight D/W in battlegrounds anyway too much chance to miss.

As others have said anyone in decent gear, that has actually learned to play their class will pretty much kill you in 1v1 unless you're lucky (though you can really stick it to a warlock if you're quick and use your skills wisely).

Classes to work with generally depends on the battleground but in most setups you'll want a pally (specially in AV so your group can quickly ninja into DB), druid (if the pally's healing then druid can either dps or tank), shammy (enhancement's good especially if they're dropping windfury for the melee players). Then I'd say a mage or hunter for extra ranged dps and CC, rogue's are more helpful if you roll in groups of 2 or 3 where the stunlocks are going to matter to survivability.

Will also say it really helps to have a decently setup group/guild to do battlegrounds. Cannot stress how important it is to have ventrillo if you are doing as a group. Also helps if you know the maps well, especially in Alterac Valley there's a few points where you can run out of sight, and some rather important bottleneck's you should lure the enemy into.