I am lvl 64 prot and i plan on going holy endgame. when should i make the switch? ive been hording spell damage gear for holding aggroso is that the same stuff i would want to use for healing? or would i need to get stuff with a lot more intelect? here is my armory
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dunemaul&n=Fatmoldy
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Wouldn't make the switch until lvl 70. Also, lvl 64 spl damage gear isn't really what you are looking for to switch to holy. You want specific healing gear. Imo, lvl all the way to 70 as prot and then follow the sticky to pick up lvl 70 healing gear. If you check it out now, you'll know what to aim for and if you're lucky pick some up on the way.
As a general rule of thumb, to start off you'll want +heal and mp5 with a mana pool of around 8 to 9k. Just stacking int isn't really the answer, you'll need the healing gear to really be effective. As holy, don't be scared to wear non-plate to start off with either until you can replace them with something better.
Check out the sticky, it's got a lot of good stuff in it.
As a general rule of thumb, to start off you'll want +heal and mp5 with a mana pool of around 8 to 9k. Just stacking int isn't really the answer, you'll need the healing gear to really be effective. As holy, don't be scared to wear non-plate to start off with either until you can replace them with something better.
Check out the sticky, it's got a lot of good stuff in it.
Yea I agree, wait on switching specs till 70, but be sure to take any gear that drops with +healing as long as your current healer doesn't need it to make the switch a little easier.
Agree with baw, always go with anything that has +healing on it; with +healing you usually will get some decent +intellect. As far as MP5 goes, there are also some good enchants to help with that, as well as some +healing enchants. Fair warning tho, some of the big +healing enchants will cost you quite a large chunk of gold so be prepared to pay quite a bit for mats
Agree with baw, always go with anything that has +healing on it; with +healing you usually will get some decent +intellect. As far as MP5 goes, there are also some good enchants to help with that, as well as some +healing enchants. Fair warning tho, some of the big +healing enchants will cost you quite a large chunk of gold so be prepared to pay quite a bit for mats
Start gathering healing trinkets and rings and things from now onwards, once you make the switch head to the AH pick up some cheap healing gear (cloth works too) and work you way towards the gear listed in the sticky.
Echoing the above, now is the time you want to build up your healing gear: not spell damage gear, unless it has more healing then your current piece, but actual +healing gear. You don't really want to respec when you don't have the gear to support your new build, particularly as a healer/tank, so waiting till 70 is probably going to be what you'll want to do.
I wouldn't get rid of your tank set though, unless you really need the money or know you won't ever switch back to tanking. That's one thing about classes who need completely different gear for each spec is you gotta be willing to carry "off-sets". I've never been full Holy, but for the most part, I've always had a healing kit, as up to date as possible without taking something over an actual healer.
One thing I'd suggest is try to avoid grouping with Paladin healers so that any plate healing that drops you can receive. For that matter, try to go with a Priest first, then Druid, then Shaman: that way you'll have the best chance to get your healing pieces as Priest can only take the cloth, Druid cloth/leather, etc.. Of course some circumstances won't allow this "bias", but when possible try this out ;)
Like how I try to avoid physical DPSers when going to BM on my Shaman to maximize the chance of getting that awesome trinket there, hehe ;)
Edited, Mar 25th 2008 1:52am by Maulgak
I wouldn't get rid of your tank set though, unless you really need the money or know you won't ever switch back to tanking. That's one thing about classes who need completely different gear for each spec is you gotta be willing to carry "off-sets". I've never been full Holy, but for the most part, I've always had a healing kit, as up to date as possible without taking something over an actual healer.
One thing I'd suggest is try to avoid grouping with Paladin healers so that any plate healing that drops you can receive. For that matter, try to go with a Priest first, then Druid, then Shaman: that way you'll have the best chance to get your healing pieces as Priest can only take the cloth, Druid cloth/leather, etc.. Of course some circumstances won't allow this "bias", but when possible try this out ;)
Like how I try to avoid physical DPSers when going to BM on my Shaman to maximize the chance of getting that awesome trinket there, hehe ;)
Edited, Mar 25th 2008 1:52am by Maulgak
Why do you want to go Holy for endgame? If you leveled Prot, I assume it is because you like to tank. Why are you planning to switch?
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Because some guilds / players think that only warriors / druids can tank endgame.
The whole front half of Kara , IMHO , is kind of made for a pally tank to clear with the undead mobs and what not. Shattered Halls is another instance made for the pally tank.
Especially the room before Moroes , many a clothie caster has died there doing AoE with a warrior tanking it .
Pallys are multi-mob tanks ,period. It's a shame that we dont get the chance to utilize that to the fullest extent sometimes.
I carry a full tank set in my bag and when i change over to it me def is 485 - more than enough to OT in certain situations with my HP at 10.6K unbuffed and 5K mana. Granted no holy shield but eh you cant have it all.
The whole front half of Kara , IMHO , is kind of made for a pally tank to clear with the undead mobs and what not. Shattered Halls is another instance made for the pally tank.
Especially the room before Moroes , many a clothie caster has died there doing AoE with a warrior tanking it .
Pallys are multi-mob tanks ,period. It's a shame that we dont get the chance to utilize that to the fullest extent sometimes.
I carry a full tank set in my bag and when i change over to it me def is 485 - more than enough to OT in certain situations with my HP at 10.6K unbuffed and 5K mana. Granted no holy shield but eh you cant have it all.
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Leveling prot is very efficient if you know how to AoE/multi-mob grind
This is true, but leveling Ret can be even better since not all quests can be done via AoE. Honestly, even leveling Holy is not that bad.
But still, I was just curious as to the reason the OP wants to switch specs. If the OP really wants to heal, then I would recommend switching to Holy sooner rather than later. Experience healing is key to becoming a good healer. Just slapping on healing gear and re-specing doesn't make you a healer. It will actually make you the worst healer, and your party/raid will suffer because of your lack of experience.
YJMark wrote:
Experience healing is key to becoming a good healer. Just slapping on healing gear and re-specing doesn't make you a healer. It will actually make you the worst healer, and your party/raid will suffer because of your lack of experience.
Quite true. i respecced to holy at 70 after leveling as Retr. Although I did a lot of healing in lower instances, I still needed time to get used to the subtle differences with Holy spec healing. I actually made a fair number of runs in places like UB or SP etc... just for the practice. Did me good i think and made sure my reputation wasn't torn to shreds by taking on too much too soon.
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well i have healed before i leveled all the way to about 52 as holy then i switched to prot because i wanted to get to 70 as fast as possible and i wanted to do something different for a change. tanking has been fun and i really love aoe farming and stuff like that but i think endgame healing is what i want to do. so does the experience healing at lvl 52 and below help me at all? i plan on training at 70 on easier instances before i get into the heavy stuff.
fatmoldy - first, your name is hilarious.
Second, with your plan, you'll do just fine re-specing at lvl 70. Go have fun AoE grinding while you still can :)
If you are targeting Dil's pre-kara checklist, you'll get plenty of practice healing. Drops are based on luck, so you may be grinding instances for a while. Took me over 15 SLab runs to get that chestpiece, and over 10 Steamvault runs for the helm. I can do those instances blindfolded now....lol.
It's all good though. I love running instances, so none of it is boring.
Second, with your plan, you'll do just fine re-specing at lvl 70. Go have fun AoE grinding while you still can :)
If you are targeting Dil's pre-kara checklist, you'll get plenty of practice healing. Drops are based on luck, so you may be grinding instances for a while. Took me over 15 SLab runs to get that chestpiece, and over 10 Steamvault runs for the helm. I can do those instances blindfolded now....lol.
It's all good though. I love running instances, so none of it is boring.
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thanks lol and thanks for all the advice everyone
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