when i can use dual weild should i just start using that immediately os r there better choices out there,
what dual weapons do u think is the best,
or what 2h weapon do u think is the best for a hunter if im only lvl 20??
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While you're leveling, use whatever gives you the best stats. A hunter's melee weapons should be chosen based on +agility, +stamina, +intellect and similar bonuses.
Once you get near 70, you'll find a two-handed weapon has better stats than the combined stats of two one-handed weapons. At that point you'll be using exclusively two-handed weapons.
Edited, Mar 24th 2008 2:38pm by ItsaGaAs
Once you get near 70, you'll find a two-handed weapon has better stats than the combined stats of two one-handed weapons. At that point you'll be using exclusively two-handed weapons.
Edited, Mar 24th 2008 2:38pm by ItsaGaAs
With the exception of dual wielding Dagger of Bad Mojo.
but thats not all that common :P
but thats not all that common :P
140 ignore armor vs 7 agi and 16 AP... i guess i'd go for the ignore armor.
What's the conversion rate for AP to Ignore Armour?
i think 100 converts to about 20-25 Ap, but ignore armor scales the more you have of it and the better your gear overall is.
WoW Wiki says its
1 Agility = 2 Armor
1 Agility = 1 Attack Power
http://www.wowwiki.com/Hunter
Hmmm, so maybe I should go for the Beast Lord gloves and get the four piece bonus. 'Ignore 600 armor upon use of your pet's kill command' is equal to around +300 attack power or agility. That would be a nice buff. It lasts 15 seconds, so on long fights it would be proced nearly constantly.
Edited, Mar 24th 2008 4:24pm by ItsaGaAs
1 Agility = 2 Armor
1 Agility = 1 Attack Power
http://www.wowwiki.com/Hunter
Hmmm, so maybe I should go for the Beast Lord gloves and get the four piece bonus. 'Ignore 600 armor upon use of your pet's kill command' is equal to around +300 attack power or agility. That would be a nice buff. It lasts 15 seconds, so on long fights it would be proced nearly constantly.
Edited, Mar 24th 2008 4:24pm by ItsaGaAs
ItsaGaAs wrote:
WoW Wiki says its
1 Agility = 2 Armor
1 Agility = 1 Attack Power
http://www.wowwiki.com/Hunter
Hmmm, so maybe I should go for the Beast Lord gloves and get the four piece bonus. 'Ignore 600 armor upon use of your pet's kill command' is equal to around +300 attack power or agility. That would be a nice buff. It lasts 15 seconds, so on long fights it would be proced nearly constantly.
Edited, Mar 24th 2008 4:24pm by ItsaGaAs
1 Agility = 2 Armor
1 Agility = 1 Attack Power
http://www.wowwiki.com/Hunter
Hmmm, so maybe I should go for the Beast Lord gloves and get the four piece bonus. 'Ignore 600 armor upon use of your pet's kill command' is equal to around +300 attack power or agility. That would be a nice buff. It lasts 15 seconds, so on long fights it would be proced nearly constantly.
Edited, Mar 24th 2008 4:24pm by ItsaGaAs
Umm nope.
1 agi gives 2 armor, 1 ap, 0.5 crit rating. It has nothing to do with "ignore armor" which is a totally different stat.
Ignore armor does what it says, it ignores an amount of you opponents armor. That is your shots will hit harder since your opponent has less armor when he is fighting you.
Roughly 100 ignore armor equal 20 attack power.
The more you have, the better ignore armor gets.
The less armor your opponent has, the better ignore armor is as a stat.
Both of this is because armor does not scale in a linear way.
E.g. my druid:
Tank equip, human form: 7032 armor reduce damage taken by 39.98%
Tank equip, bear form: 30,374armor reduce damage taken by 74.21%
Thus, the additional 23,352 armor reduce the damage my druid takes by 34.23%.
The first points of armor have a lot bigger effect on damage reduction than the next points. That is why stacking ignore armor is a good thing (but you should only care for that stat if you don't hurt the other stats too much).
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so u guys r saying that i should think more about getting a vep with good stats than a vep with good dps??
blazeeee wrote:
so u guys r saying that i should think more about getting a vep with good stats than a vep with good dps??
I hope you are joking.
Just to be sure for the ~100th time
hunter = ranged dps class. Melee weapon is only there for stats as you should not do melee combat at all.
I like my Big Bad Wolf's Paw/Emerald Ripper combo.
Mulgrin wrote:
Tank equip, human form: 7032 armor reduce damage taken by 39.98%
Tank equip, bear form: 30,374armor reduce damage taken by 74.21%
Thus, the additional 23,352 armor reduce the damage my druid takes by 34.23%.
Tank equip, bear form: 30,374armor reduce damage taken by 74.21%
Thus, the additional 23,352 armor reduce the damage my druid takes by 34.23%.
(i have no means of calculating this so its guesstimates)
If i shoot a clothie and ignore 280 of his ~2.5k armor that is going to make a much bigger impact and make my shots hit like 5% harder.
blazeeee wrote:
so u guys r saying that i should think more about getting a vep with good stats than a vep with good dps??
Yes.
Quote:
Ignore armor stats
Quote from EJ forums:
Q u o t e:
Serpentshrine Cavern:
Hydross the Unstable: 7700
The Lurker Below: 7700
Leotheras the Blind: 7700
Fathom-Lord Karathress 6200
Morogrim Tidewalker: 7700
Lady Vashj: 6200
Tempest Keep:
Void Reaver: 8800
High Astromancer Solarian: 6200
Al'ar: 7700
Kael'thas Sunstrider: 6200
Hyjal Summit:
Rage Winterchill: 6200
Anetheron: 6200
Kaz'rogal: 6200
Azgalor: 6200
Archimonde: 6200
Black Temple:
High Warlord Naj'entus: 7700
Supremus: 7700
Shade of Akama: 7700
Teron Gorefiend: 6200
Gurtogg Bloodboil: 7700
Reliquary of Souls:
- Essence of Suffering: 0
- Essence of Desire: 7700
- Essence of Anger: 7700
Mother Shahraz: 6200
Illidari Council:
- Gathios the Shatterer: 6200
Notice that all but 2 of the bosses have either 6200 or 7700 armor. A similar pattern occurs in the trash mobs: 5475/5700/5950 or 6800/7100/7400 for level 70/71/72 mobs. In terms of percentage reduction, these values result in either 34.15% or 39.15% armor reduction vs attackers of the same level as the mob.
Q u o t e:
Bosses with 7700 armor
base reduction: 42,17% (7700 armor)
sundered 5x: 32,57% (5100 armor) - dmg increase for sunder: 16,61%
faerie fire: 29,84% (4490 armor) - additional dmg increase for fire: 4,05%
CoR: 25,85% (3680 armor) - additional dmg increase for CoR: 5,69%
Q u o t e:
Bosses with 6200 armor
base reduction: 37% (6200 armor)
sundered 5x: 25,43% (3600 armor) - dmg increase for sunder: 18,36%
faerie fire: 22,07% (2990 armor) - additional dmg increase for fire: 4,5%
CoR: 17,11% (2180 armor) - additional dmg increase for CoR: 6,36%
If the boss has just SA x5 on it, then the effect of ArP is as follows:
100 ArP: 0.71%/0.64%
200 ArP: 1.43%/1.29%
300 ArP: 2.16%/1.95%
400 ArP: 2.91%/2.62%
500 ArP: 3.66%/3.3%
For a fully debuffed boss (SA x5, FF, CoR) the increase from ArP is:
100 ArP: 0.79%/0.71%
200 ArP: 1.59%/1.42%
300 ArP: 2.41%/2.15%
400 ArP: 3.24%/2.89%
500 ArP: 4.08%/3.64%
Where the Left number is a mob with 6200 base armor and the Right number is 7700 base armor.
Quote from EJ forums:
Q u o t e:
Serpentshrine Cavern:
Hydross the Unstable: 7700
The Lurker Below: 7700
Leotheras the Blind: 7700
Fathom-Lord Karathress 6200
Morogrim Tidewalker: 7700
Lady Vashj: 6200
Tempest Keep:
Void Reaver: 8800
High Astromancer Solarian: 6200
Al'ar: 7700
Kael'thas Sunstrider: 6200
Hyjal Summit:
Rage Winterchill: 6200
Anetheron: 6200
Kaz'rogal: 6200
Azgalor: 6200
Archimonde: 6200
Black Temple:
High Warlord Naj'entus: 7700
Supremus: 7700
Shade of Akama: 7700
Teron Gorefiend: 6200
Gurtogg Bloodboil: 7700
Reliquary of Souls:
- Essence of Suffering: 0
- Essence of Desire: 7700
- Essence of Anger: 7700
Mother Shahraz: 6200
Illidari Council:
- Gathios the Shatterer: 6200
Notice that all but 2 of the bosses have either 6200 or 7700 armor. A similar pattern occurs in the trash mobs: 5475/5700/5950 or 6800/7100/7400 for level 70/71/72 mobs. In terms of percentage reduction, these values result in either 34.15% or 39.15% armor reduction vs attackers of the same level as the mob.
Q u o t e:
Bosses with 7700 armor
base reduction: 42,17% (7700 armor)
sundered 5x: 32,57% (5100 armor) - dmg increase for sunder: 16,61%
faerie fire: 29,84% (4490 armor) - additional dmg increase for fire: 4,05%
CoR: 25,85% (3680 armor) - additional dmg increase for CoR: 5,69%
Q u o t e:
Bosses with 6200 armor
base reduction: 37% (6200 armor)
sundered 5x: 25,43% (3600 armor) - dmg increase for sunder: 18,36%
faerie fire: 22,07% (2990 armor) - additional dmg increase for fire: 4,5%
CoR: 17,11% (2180 armor) - additional dmg increase for CoR: 6,36%
If the boss has just SA x5 on it, then the effect of ArP is as follows:
100 ArP: 0.71%/0.64%
200 ArP: 1.43%/1.29%
300 ArP: 2.16%/1.95%
400 ArP: 2.91%/2.62%
500 ArP: 3.66%/3.3%
For a fully debuffed boss (SA x5, FF, CoR) the increase from ArP is:
100 ArP: 0.79%/0.71%
200 ArP: 1.59%/1.42%
300 ArP: 2.41%/2.15%
400 ArP: 3.24%/2.89%
500 ArP: 4.08%/3.64%
Where the Left number is a mob with 6200 base armor and the Right number is 7700 base armor.
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