I love Wind Fury, have my babies.Follow

Did a Kara run last night with a WF totem in my group. . . i now know what it would be like to roll a genuine DPS class. that was so much fun, and amazing as well. i was well over 700 DPS the whole time. even with 60% threat reduction, i had double everyones threat durring every fight. i had to save CS or Exocism (on undead) a few times when WF went off. I was still wasting my first judgement for SotC as a way to time tanks threat lead.

this actually started making me wonder about how a few things work, but the high light of my night was Shade where i pulled 1034 DPS. . .

now that all of that is out of the way.

i have some questions about how exactly SoB really works.
the discription is 35% weapon damage.
now, if i swing 1000, it procs for 350 and it can crit on its own for 700. thats how i understand it now.

but what happens if i weapon crit? 2000, it procs for 700? can it can crit on its own for 1400? now ive seen numbers this high, but it could have been a messed up CS for all i know, its hard to tell when im staring at omen or CDs the whole fight.

but now, what about WF? if i WF crit for 4000, it procs for 1400??? and crits for 2800? if that is the case with SoB, then i can honestly say 1 of 2 things.
WF is a Belf Rets Best friend, or that WF and SoB are broken. but only if the above is actually correct.

in conclusion! WF makes me feel like DPS. and how exactly does SoB really work?

Edited, Mar 20th 2008 1:42pm by RuenBahamut

ok, thanks. ill start paying more attention to SoB now, but i suspect that your right. it seems way OP if it actually worked like i described.

FURY not FURRY

Wind Fury = Weapon Ownage

Wind Furry = Wind rider ****

Hey, without your Salv buff I never would've been able to keep that WF totem down.

Edited, Mar 30th 2008 10:49am by TheYardstick

Ret pally DPS is like the female ******. Some say it exists, some say it doesn't. Hollywood tries to fake it, and there are pictures of it with bigfoot in the national enquirier.

Windfury puts that pic in the wallstreet journal.

This should be sigged.

Going off of this, Gaudion, I heard that in the past, one could combine Flametongue Totem and Seal of Righteousness to accomplish the same. Fire damage for the melee swing, fire damage for the holy damage.

From what I understand, it works with Blood same as with Righteousness. At least last time I saw, if I had Righteousness active and Windfury gave me EXTRA ATTACK, it procced Righteousness on both attacks.


And yes, Windfury is extra attack.



Note: I am not 100% sure this works with Seal of Blood, since I haven't tested it, but if it does work, it is intended use, as Seal of Commander can also proc from Windfury Extra Attack.


And yes, they did fix the Windfury bug where it could proc out of itself back when TBC came or something, but Seals proccing off the extra attack has always been intended use.

Note 2: There is a bug in which if you have Seal of Command active, and cast Seal of Blood right when you are about to hit, the Blood can proc off the normal hit and if Seal of Command procced, the Blood can proc off of that. That is a bug, Windfury extra attack Seal gibbing is not. :)

Paladin's have DPS?

As a Paladin tank I prefer your angry air totem to your angry wind.

And for the love of god, someone show a screenshot of SoB proccing or not proccing off of Wind Fury.

Clarification for WF/Seal procs:

Chance on hit procs cannot cause other chance on hit procs to proc, nor can on hit procs cause chance on hit procs to proc. However, a chance on hit proc that does not directly contradict an on hit proc will allow the on hit proc to proc normally.


What does this mean?

Wind Fury can proc off your initial melee hit, and because you hit, seal of blood will proc also. The wind fury proc generates an additional hit, and because seal of blood is "on hit" and not "chance on hit" the additional hit will also proc SoB.

SoB is a proc on hit. However, if WF does not proc on the actual hit, SoB will not proc WF.

SoCommand is a chance on hit proc. If WF procs on the initial hit, SoCom can proc on the same hit, However, the additional hit generated by WF cannot generate a SoCom proc because "chance on hit" is reduced to 0% by the WF.

Likewise, SoC procs cannot generate WF procs in the same way SoB procs cannot.

Flametongue and SoR can be applied to the same weapon via totem. By virtue of this the weapon can proc 2 seperate effects at once, however both are procing from the melee hit, FT does not proc from the holy damage of SoR, otherwise on occassion you would see 2 sets of FT damage, which does not happen.

I'm actually pretty sure that windfury hits can proc 'on hit' procs, (except more windfury procs because there is a hidden cooldown on windfury).



Assuming that windury totem procs are the same as windfury weapon procs, you should be able to get horrible goodness from windfury procs.

Anyway, I'll find a ret paladin to try it out with my shammy and get the screenshots.

Oh, you mean you haven't figured this out by now?

Blizzard: "Well, we've had the Shaman all to ourselves for two years and it's rocked the house, but now Alliance are getting them and we all know they're going to roll a ton of them, so we're not really going to look into improving them. In fact, we're just going to let them stagnate for the most part and brush them to the curb. Since we all play Horde and we're getting Pallies, how can we buff them now? What's that, Jeff? Even though they suck, everyone loves to spec them Ret? Well, let's give ourselves a Seal that makes Ret awesome then."

Thus continued Blizzard's proud heritage of unmasked favoritism towards the Horde.