hello :)
i've got a little question about pulling as a hunter.
right now, as a level 16 dwarf hunter with my wolf pet, i can quite easily beat solo creatures up to level 25. however, when there are more of them, even if they're around the same level as me, i obviously can't always take it.
so lately, i read somewhere that i could pull one creature out of a group, without letting all the others to notice it, with an arcane shot. however, when i try to attack someone in a group with this arcane shot, i can't disable the autoshot in time. i tried about everything, including things as detargeting the mob. however, the normal autoshot and the arcane shot are always fired at the very same moment, the problem, i always make multiple mobs angry...
does someone know a trick or something to pull just one mob out of a group of them, without having to fight all of them at the same time??
thanks, JJ
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Regardless of what shot you use, if they are grouped together, you will most likely get multiples.
In some cases, the mobs may not be social with one another (i.e., you pull one, and the others do not assist), but that is rare.
As you get higher level, you can send your pet into a group, peel off a mob to a freezing trap, and then heal through the damage your pet is taking.
In some cases, the mobs may not be social with one another (i.e., you pull one, and the others do not assist), but that is rare.
As you get higher level, you can send your pet into a group, peel off a mob to a freezing trap, and then heal through the damage your pet is taking.
Get a bird/bat (carrion bird, owl or bat) with screech for multiples. Screech will hold all the mobs, usually even when you have to heal your pet. You can shoot them down one at a time while healing your pet through the damage he'll take. Petopia (link in FAQ at top of forum) will allow you to find one of those birds near your level. If I remember correctly, the carrion birds in Loch Modan have screech 1, an area you should already be familiar with as a dwarf at your level.
Edited, Mar 20th 2008 8:31am by ItsaGaAs
Edited, Mar 20th 2008 8:31am by ItsaGaAs
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ok, thank you for the replies.
i'll try the bird-pet idea, and further i'll just level up a bit before trying again... :p
i'll try the bird-pet idea, and further i'll just level up a bit before trying again... :p
You can also rotate your pet through the unfrozen targets if your pet doesn't have any kind of AOE aggro like screech. As you start to overcome your pets aggro, you can send your pet back on the target you were just hitting, you switch to the one they were just chewing on. Done right, you can down 2 targets and keep the third on ice until you are ready for them. Growl lasts quite a while as an aggro generator.
It also teaches really good pet control. I wish someone had directed me with such tactics back when I was at that low level. I was pet clueless. I didn't learn many of these stunts until well after mid-40's and figured some out on my own, some later on from here on Alla.
I don't know any trick to pull just one target out of a social group other than to target the one furthest from the group and hope they are far enough out of trigger range on the others. Also, you have to pull them AWAY from the group, not across the group! So positioning can be critical.
It also teaches really good pet control. I wish someone had directed me with such tactics back when I was at that low level. I was pet clueless. I didn't learn many of these stunts until well after mid-40's and figured some out on my own, some later on from here on Alla.
I don't know any trick to pull just one target out of a social group other than to target the one furthest from the group and hope they are far enough out of trigger range on the others. Also, you have to pull them AWAY from the group, not across the group! So positioning can be critical.
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as a level 16 dwarf hunter with my wolf pet, i can quite easily beat solo creatures up to level 25
If you can do this easily at level 16, pulling 2-3 mobs at your level should be cake..
I've taken mobs 3-4 levels above me but never 9 levels above me...thats just amazing...I'd like to see a video of this (not that I doubt you at all, but I'd like to learn such a difficult almost impossible maneuver).
Flipp
I've done 9 levels above me, but its really slow and a tricky fight. You'll miss a lot so the mob dies slowly. Your pet never gets a break on the hits he takes and will require constant healing. Keep wyvern sting up to nerf those swings. You'll pull aggro off your pet easily. Intimidate and feign death sometimes get used twice a fight. Lay a freezing trap in front of you. If that's not resisted, you get a nice break to heal yourself and your pet.
Edited, Mar 20th 2008 9:16am by ItsaGaAs
Edited, Mar 20th 2008 9:16am by ItsaGaAs
I soloed king bangalash when he wasn't nerfed and quite a few levels above me. It was a very long fight, involving lots of traps, kiting, rezzing my pet, fd etc etc. I had a high level clear adds the whole time. Fun though. It's why I love hunters.
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ItsaGaAs wrote:
I've done 9 levels above me, but its really slow and a tricky fight. You'll miss a lot so the mob dies slowly. Your pet never gets a break on the hits he takes and will require constant healing. Keep wyvern sting up to nerf those swings. You'll pull aggro off your pet easily. Intimidate and feign death sometimes get used twice a fight. Lay a freezing trap in front of you. If that's not resisted, you get a nice break to heal yourself and your pet.
Edited, Mar 20th 2008 9:16am by ItsaGaAs
Edited, Mar 20th 2008 9:16am by ItsaGaAs
Keep in mind he is merely lvl 16, and wont see any of the abilities you mentioned for quite some time.
I also have to doubt that anybody is routinely and without trouble fighting mobs 9 levels above you(without kiting to guards at least), as you will have almost no chance to hit the mob, a 6% chance at best I believe. So you and your pet will miss 94% of the time while the mob is hitting you 99% of the time.
So I am gonna go ahead and call BS here.
Thats what my point was..at Level 16, it would be nearly impossible without help from guards or a nearby healer/help.
Just not enough talents or skills to pull off such moves. But like i mentioned earlier, if it is indeed doable, I'd like to see it and try it out myself.
Flipp
Just not enough talents or skills to pull off such moves. But like i mentioned earlier, if it is indeed doable, I'd like to see it and try it out myself.
Flipp
Additionally, if you're doing this for the bigger xp you are wasting time. Stick with mobs your level to plus 3. You will get more xp becuase the kills are that much quicker than trying to slowly kill a mob that many levels above you. The only reason to take on mobs "9 levels" above you is to prove you can.
Feel free to call BS. Now go try it as described and get back to us. I was level 58 in Shadowmoon Valley fighting those boars blocking me along the road. I was getting all the flight points and free xp exploring new areas. I was heading to Wildhammer Stronghold for that flight point. The trip to the Stormspire in Netherstorm was another 'fun' run.
I agree it usually ain't worth the effort. One gains more xp from several shorter fights on mobs closer to one's own level without need to resort to blowing pots.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply a level 16 could take a level 25. That level lacks several useful and necessary hunter tricks.
Edited, Mar 20th 2008 12:26pm by ItsaGaAs
I agree it usually ain't worth the effort. One gains more xp from several shorter fights on mobs closer to one's own level without need to resort to blowing pots.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply a level 16 could take a level 25. That level lacks several useful and necessary hunter tricks.
Edited, Mar 20th 2008 12:26pm by ItsaGaAs
How on Earth did you have the time and mana to revive your pet, let alone against an un-nerfed king bang?
rez while the mob is trapped. And I popped a mana pot for that fight.
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The only time I feel fighting mobs grossly higher than oneself is of value was for the cooking quest in Gadgetzan. From fishing and such I easily maxed my cooking at 225 long before I hit level 35. So when I finally got to 35 and could use the stock of cookable materials I'd stored in the bank, I headed down there to Gadgetzan pronto. The guy wants a dozen giant eggs? They cost 1G each at auction? ***** that. I'll just sit here near the flight point and pick off the Fire Rocs as they path by. They're only seven levels above me after all. Two hours later I had my twelve eggs. Pro tip: Don't let the guards help you. If they do, you don't get to loot the mob.
Edited, Mar 20th 2008 3:30pm by ItsaGaAs
Edited, Mar 20th 2008 3:30pm by ItsaGaAs
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indeed, i still miss most of the abilities descibed here.
however, i did take a lvl 23 mob in loch modan alone (woops, that's just seven levels higher, not nine - sorry about that), and i'm quite sure i didn't had to eat myself. if i remember well, i had done this:
at first, i didn't want to attack it, but i accidentily ran into it, and since i still had no feigh death or scare beast, i simply had to fight it. i let my pet attack the mob and draw his attention with his growl. i ran a little to get in the ranged attack limit, so i could use autoshot and arcane shot all the time. when my pet was about to die, i shot a distracting shot so the mob would attack me. then i just moved on to the normal attacks, raptor strikes and a wing clip, while my pet was attacking the mob from behind. while sometimes running a bit to shoot an arcane shot, i got it down in about a minute.
i was almost dead, my pet was as well, and besides that, i don't remember hitting it so less, i thought i even hit it quite often. oh, and i had aspect of the monkey enabled.
thank you all for your replies, by the way. learned quite a lot... :)
however, i did take a lvl 23 mob in loch modan alone (woops, that's just seven levels higher, not nine - sorry about that), and i'm quite sure i didn't had to eat myself. if i remember well, i had done this:
at first, i didn't want to attack it, but i accidentily ran into it, and since i still had no feigh death or scare beast, i simply had to fight it. i let my pet attack the mob and draw his attention with his growl. i ran a little to get in the ranged attack limit, so i could use autoshot and arcane shot all the time. when my pet was about to die, i shot a distracting shot so the mob would attack me. then i just moved on to the normal attacks, raptor strikes and a wing clip, while my pet was attacking the mob from behind. while sometimes running a bit to shoot an arcane shot, i got it down in about a minute.
i was almost dead, my pet was as well, and besides that, i don't remember hitting it so less, i thought i even hit it quite often. oh, and i had aspect of the monkey enabled.
thank you all for your replies, by the way. learned quite a lot... :)
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