question about dealing with people in instances.Follow

Ok, I ran VC the other day with a group that would refuse to wait for my mana to refill or for me to lay my totem down for them.

I was the healer for the group and I ended up leaving them cause they just kept leaving me behind trying to pull the instance faster than my non healing gear could support.

I tried to explain to them they needed to wait so they didn't die. Hell I let the tank die twice trying to get through to him. (we had another tanking class there)

What do you do about people like this? Just /ignore them or leave the group? is that the only way to solve the problem?

What I've done on my healing classes is when they engage, make sure that I'm far enough back that I never enter combat.

Then when they engage say "I'll back here getting the mana that I asked you to wait for me to get. When I top off I'll res you. Course then I'll need to drink again so you may want to wait for that this time..."

I've gotten booted before, which was fine. I've also had them shape up which was fine, too.

Thats awesome. I'll try that before leaving the group. I am sure someone will get the hint. (I hope)

haha, I can relate to this. My shammie is 42 now and not spec'd for healing at all. If it's a pug, I tell them up front, I need mana on occasion. So if Im sitting down drinking don't pull. I remember the VC days. You can just gently remind them that you need mana to heal and if they want the benefit of totems to wait a sec. If they don't want those things, pull away.

In fact on my alts I rarely find brand new players. Most of them have higher level characters. In fact on occasion I forget I'm not on my 70 and have pulled too much and killed myself... LOL

I don't think I would use /ignore, unless they become rude or don't listen at all.

For some reason the notion that you'd manage to find 4 true brand new players in one instance run in 2008 strikes me as odd. One-two yes, but four?

What I like to do is type /oom this gives an audible prompt to them to let them know that you need to drink. I know that when I first started out, I would frustrate my friends because I would get busy with what was going on in the game and would forget to read what the group was typing. My buddy started doing typing the /oom and I would hear his toon say "I am low on mana" or some version of that and I would know to stop/slow down to allow him to drink. This may not work for everyone, but it did work for me.

Unforunately it happens in groups. And unforunately the one you were in just really doesn't get it. You could have probably done a /rw and they wouldn't understand that you need a break. Since you said that you even let the tank die a couple of times to give them another hint, they're obviously either oblivious to you flat-out saying that you're oom or they don't care and think that they can keep going.

Certainly not as improbable as finding four people who already have 70's but aren't still thoroughly retarded.

Edited, Mar 20th 2008 4:23pm by Gaudion

The order I'd approach the situation:

1. Communicate. Let em know you need to drink occasionally.

2. Make sure it's not you. Make sure you're not obsessing about being 100% mana for each pull. Sounds like this wasn't the case, but a lot of people obsess at being topped off every single pull when each individual pull is only eating 10% of their mana.

3. Let em die. You gave them warning you weren't ready. If they charge forward and die, it's their fault and they'll learn eventually. Just make sure you stay far enough away from the mobs to avoid getting put in combat.

4. Ditch the group. If things still fail to work out, it's time to get back to questing so you can level past the uber-newbie areas. If necessary keep track of which players were troublemakers and don't group with them in the future.

My favorite line (that I only wish I had made up myself) is: "Do that again and I'll let you die. At this point it's less mana to res you than to heal you."

When I'm healing on my shammy...that is, any time I'm in an instance, since she's resto specced...I try to make sure the group knows when I'm low on or out of mana, and if I stop to drink I do expect them to wait until I'm at full again. However, I'll only stop to drink if I actually need it--lower than 70% mana, usually, or if the pulls are large groups and I end up needing potions often.

I have run into groups that just won't wait for me...in those, I still do my best, but my best isn't as good as it could be, and I usually don't waste my potions on them. On the other hand, I've healed for a lot of great groups, who are even willing to let me have any mana pots or drinks they find because they know I'll actually use everything I've got to keep them alive. I think anyone who's grouped with me more than once has heard me say "If I'm not healing you, I'm either dead or out of mana and potions and doing my best to beat the crap out of the mobs attacking the squishier party members." And it's completely true...