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haste pot + heroism + abacus when tanking?Follow

#1 Mar 18 2008 at 7:43 AM Rating: Decent
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i ran heroic UB last night with a shaman, two hunters and a feral druid when we got to the last boss and decided to burn him down. after positioning the boss, i popped a haste pot and the shaman popped heroism, increasing my attack speed to below 1 second and allowing me to build a lot of rage from damage dealt and very fast HS spams when shield slam was on cd. it just occurred to me that i could have worn my abacus trinket instead of either moroes trink or goblin rocket launcher and increased my attack speed even more. we downed the boss so i am going to try that tactic again when i tank with that shaman healer.

just wondering if any of you tanks out there have done anything similar.
#2 Mar 18 2008 at 10:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Imo, wasting DPS pots on bosses as a tank is a waste unless you have aggro issues, but you're very much free to try anything you want.

Edit: Yeah, that applies to DPS trinks too.

Edited, Mar 18th 2008 8:28pm by Utarius
#3 Mar 18 2008 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Eh, personally I'd argue that wasting mitigation / stamina buffs & consumables on bosses that you're overgeared for and have no problems surviving against is a waste.
#4 Mar 18 2008 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
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Agreed. Once you've cleared something, and are able to consistently tank something without having to worry about being killed, more mitigation does nothing aside from allowing you to flex ePeen. Granted, I honestly don't do anything but kara and the early 25s anymore, but take kara for example. It's an easy zone. Myself and the people I've ran with have been through it a thousand times. I can push my effective health set and have 20k HP, I can use my avoidance set and sacrifice about 4k hp but gain about 20% avoidance and avoid 60% of attacks, or I can put on a threat set that will put me at that same level of HP as the avoidance set, but instead I can have a large amount of block value and other threat stats. The difference is that, in terms of the pace of the run, the first two sets do absolutely nothing. I'm not going to die in Kara from damage intake. Honestly. I can't remember the last time I got gibbed in Kara. All those two sets will do is let me flex ePeen and feel cool.

On the other hand, if I throw that threat set on, I'm still not going to die...the difference is that I'll be able to push in the low 1ks easily on average, and spike higher than that. It's amazing how much more quickly it makes runs go when the DPS can push their damage more, and make mobs die sooner. I normally run things with people that are old friends from raiding, and thus geared far beyond what I am now, so I honestly have to take this tactic anyways, to be able to keep up. It's definitely nice to be able to hear 'Mike puts out some monster threat,' from people that are sitting in T5+ gear, as well. Using DPS pots/consumables to push threat on farmed content is hardly a waste, and it has nothing to do with having agro issues. If the fight isn't designed for a tank having a huge threat lead over DPS, good DPS classes will ALWAYS be able to blow you out of the water on threat if they choose to. It's just the way things work, and it's the reason why we use threat meters. If someone thinks otherwise they're either jaded by how good they think they are, or aren't communicating with their DPS the way they need to be.
#5 Mar 18 2008 at 12:07 PM Rating: Good
Wearing higher TPS items is a good thing for cleared content, but there are better options for TPS than the Abacus (Haste is a pretty weak TPS stat, comparatively speaking). Either swapping for TPS (Hit/Expertise) gear or using a trinket that provides some Hit would have been the better option... or even something like the Bloodlust Brooch should give more TPS.
#6 Mar 19 2008 at 10:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Icon of Unyielding Courageis a decent starting threat trinket. The hit on it is nice.
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