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My guild is currently going thru kara. We just did our first clear recently. We have done all of it with two pally healers and a shadow priest. Currently we are planing on bringing the shadow priest to full time heals. The setup will be Priest, pally, and shaman.
My question is her spec. Would it be better for her to do disc? What would you guys recommend? She has gotten most of the healer drops from kara already and is pretty well geared even in shadow form. She currently off heals during prince but thats about it.
If she's gonna heal she should spec holy. When i spec disc for pvp i lose over 100 healing and a bit of mp5, plus inspiration and other things.
For kara, if you are clearing at this point and she has most of the healing gear, your group would probably do better with just 2 fully specced healers and have more dps. If you have a pally and shaman healing, the priest would be more than able to heal with shadow or disc spec as a third healer ... and at that point you are missing more by losing the shadowpriest in the raid.
I actually have a similar question so I thought I'd post here rather than make a new thread. I'm generally a lurker and this forum has helped me immensely, so first off thanks for all of the sound advice.
I used to play a rogue (as if the name doesn't give it away) on a PVE server and did just raiding for a long while until I got bored of it. I'm now leveling a priest on a PVP server and my longtime RL and WOW friend has moved servers with me and is playing a druid. We plan to do just PVP, for now at least, and will be doing 2's together as soon as we hit 70. He plans on being resto so that leaves me as DPS for our 2's team anyway. I know shadow has primarily been the tree for damage as a priest but I understand that Disc does better in arena though I'm not sure exactly what one would be doing. Should I spec as shadow for 2's since I'm not going to be healing, or do you DPS as a Disc priest using holy spells and should I go that route as I'd bring, what seems to me anyway, more utility?
I'm sorry if that's a dumb question as I'm a little new to the class. Thanks in advance for your help!
*Edited for grammar.
Edited, Mar 17th 2008 4:08pm by FelRogue
I used to play a rogue (as if the name doesn't give it away) on a PVE server and did just raiding for a long while until I got bored of it. I'm now leveling a priest on a PVP server and my longtime RL and WOW friend has moved servers with me and is playing a druid. We plan to do just PVP, for now at least, and will be doing 2's together as soon as we hit 70. He plans on being resto so that leaves me as DPS for our 2's team anyway. I know shadow has primarily been the tree for damage as a priest but I understand that Disc does better in arena though I'm not sure exactly what one would be doing. Should I spec as shadow for 2's since I'm not going to be healing, or do you DPS as a Disc priest using holy spells and should I go that route as I'd bring, what seems to me anyway, more utility?
I'm sorry if that's a dumb question as I'm a little new to the class. Thanks in advance for your help!
*Edited for grammar.
Edited, Mar 17th 2008 4:08pm by FelRogue
FelRogue wrote:
I'm now leveling a priest on a PVP server and my longtime RL and WOW friend has moved servers with me and is playing a druid. We plan to do just PVP, for now at least, and will be doing 2's together as soon as we hit 70. He plans on being resto so that leaves me as DPS for our 2's team anyway. I know shadow has primarily been the tree for damage as a priest but I understand that Disc does better in arena though I'm not sure exactly what one would be doing. Should I spec as shadow for 2's since I'm not going to be healing, or do you DPS as a Disc priest using holy spells and should I go that route as I'd bring, what seems to me anyway, more utility?
The reason people are getting away from shadow for arena is because it is difficult to survive attacks from rogues and warriors in that spec. Basically, when priests go Disc for arena, they are becoming the focus fire tanks and the disc/holy talents provide some survivability through recovery, damage mitigation, and improved healing strength. While you can pretty cheaply throw in smite talents for damage, most likely you will not be in the position to throw them. About the best you can hope for is when left alone you dispel magic or mana burn the enemy.
Your problem is that the partner you have chosen (a resto druid) is not really a good matchup for a priest (imho). Since it is a RL friend and you will likely play together anyway, you would be better off if he went feral and you disc for arena. Even still, that is not a great pairing. What you really need is a partner that can provide you pockets of time to distance yourself and recover from onslaughts ... so a rogue, hunter, warlock ... something like that. Anyway, good luck.
If your endgame is to be an Arena 2v2 team, then research a bit more as you will not be an overly viable 2v2 team with a Shadow or Disc priest and a Resto Druid. Step one is to have the Druid spec to Feral for damage abilities. If you have a good Feral Druid, you may be able to get along with being a Shadow Priest to off heal through VE and still be fairly decent at casting some nukes, but your survivability is lowered due to poor damage mitigation and your spells will scale horribly compared to other classes.
As Velluna stated, Disc is the way to go for most Arena Teams, but this is best on a 3v3 team or 5v5 team, and not so good on a 2v2 team. In 2v2 it is about brutally quick combat most of the time so you have to be able to either CC, Nuke, or Burst Damage, which a shadow priest is not ideal for in most cases. (Also note - Rogue's cloak of shadow will remove all those wonderful DoT's and Vampirics you throw on them, so you have no good moves against a Rogue, other than a mindblast or two.)
In your proposed group, a Druid is one of the premier arena classes due to their survivability, so I would look at another option. Warlocks are great as they will provide a 3rd threat in the form of a pet and give solid damage through spells. Hunters for the same reason. Mages are always good as well as spell damage will help bypass those warriors and paladins armor mitigation also. My honest opinion after the past couple of 2v2's I have been involved with as my Shadow main, is that blizzard gimped them in the last few patches with regards to PvP.
That is why I rolled a rogue for 2v2...
As Velluna stated, Disc is the way to go for most Arena Teams, but this is best on a 3v3 team or 5v5 team, and not so good on a 2v2 team. In 2v2 it is about brutally quick combat most of the time so you have to be able to either CC, Nuke, or Burst Damage, which a shadow priest is not ideal for in most cases. (Also note - Rogue's cloak of shadow will remove all those wonderful DoT's and Vampirics you throw on them, so you have no good moves against a Rogue, other than a mindblast or two.)
In your proposed group, a Druid is one of the premier arena classes due to their survivability, so I would look at another option. Warlocks are great as they will provide a 3rd threat in the form of a pet and give solid damage through spells. Hunters for the same reason. Mages are always good as well as spell damage will help bypass those warriors and paladins armor mitigation also. My honest opinion after the past couple of 2v2's I have been involved with as my Shadow main, is that blizzard gimped them in the last few patches with regards to PvP.
That is why I rolled a rogue for 2v2...
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