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#1 Mar 16 2008 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
Well during Kara last night, downing attunman these drop http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=28502

and i am currently wearing http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=23538
Im thinking regardless of the gem insert in the vambracers that the bracers of the green fortress are better. Am i correct?
#2 Mar 16 2008 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
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It really depends on your stats.

Vambracers of Courage with a +12 stam gem are best if you are still uncritable / uncrushable. Otherwise Bracers of the Green Fortress will get you there faster.

Kz
#3 Mar 16 2008 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
Yes i am uncrittable/uncrushable with either of them equiped. But isn't dodge a better stat then shield block? or am i missing something there. And even with the +12 stamina gem, i would still be missing some health.

Is the 100 defense really worth that much?
#4 Mar 16 2008 at 3:40 PM Rating: Decent
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With the +12 stam gem in the Vambracers you should have 60 more health, not including any enchants.

Dodge "is" good, but remember how paladins keep hate... by getting hit. And especially by blocking. So increasing your block value, HPs & armor should be better than 0.53% chance to dodge.

Both are very good, but Block Value is sometimes forgotten with all the hipe on avoidance. Once you get uncrit/uncrush able; HPs and Block Value should be something to keep an eye out for if you plan on running anything beyond kara.

Kz
#5 Mar 16 2008 at 4:07 PM Rating: Good
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Killzon is right you probably have your old bracers enchanted with Fortitude, which would give them 51 stam total.

If you put a 12 stam gem in the Vembraces and enchant them with Fort they will have 57 stam total.
#6 Mar 16 2008 at 4:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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And remember that stamina and armor scale WITH eachother.. each point of armor makes each point of stamina more effective, so in turn each point of stamina increases the overall effect of your armor. Effective Health is great.

Later on (as in end of Tier 5, and into Tier 6) you will be stacking quite a bit more avoidance, in which case for the small increase in stamina/armor, a modest increase in dodge may be better. Right now, you still need to get hit. If you gem/enchant it well, the Vambraces are superior.

Would I spend DKPs on the Vambraces over the Greens? No. Would I run kara over and over with the hope of making this replacement? Never. But they are better.
#7 Mar 16 2008 at 5:22 PM Rating: Good
Ok, i will do that for the kara run tonight, starting on maiden, first time those dropped in kara, and right now we do not use the DKP system in this guild, i have used it in others. I was the only plate were in the raid so there was no options who to give it to. :)


GM said here u go mike.
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