Fighting Warriors ...Follow

I know it's an uphill fight ... but still, I need help.

Look at my armory for gear. It's half-nub, half-decent. I'm 20/0/41 and use an S1 mace. I can't fight warriors for crap.

Here's how it goes ...

I open w/ Garrote. Hemo. Ghostly. Rupture.

Evasion (keep them out of Zerker stance).

Hemo. Hemo ...

Die.

I can't touch the amount of damage they are doing to me.

Any suggestions?

It forces them into Arms stance, so they can't use all their neat zerker tricks...
and they often lose rage for switching (no tactical mastery, which is easy to see when you have their talent build displayed in the new version of X-perl).

I'm not a newbie ;) I'm just a newbie at L70 Rogue.

Premed, garotte, rupture, hemo a few times and stun them.

They will most likely trinket out of the stun, but that can't be helped.

If you don't have any bleeds on you vanish, prep and start the whole process over.

This time they won't have the trinket and you can choose to open with cheap shot and try and stun lock them if you took off a decent chunk of their health the first time.

If they are still over 70% you will probably just want to bleed them again.

One thing I love doing to warriors is sprint away from them then shadowstep behind them.

You can usually get off a couple hemos before they realize what you did.

Edited, Mar 14th 2008 5:20pm by Bigdaddyjug

I've been 70 for 15 days ... I will have the S3 weapon in 2 weeks. After that, I'll keep my S1, vindicator gear, and save my arena points for S4.

I'm going to put executioner on the S3 sword when I get it.

The difference between S1 and S3 is moderate... the difference between S1 and S4 is going to be huge. I'll make S1 gear do until then, and start S4 with a bang.

By comparison, if you don't use Evasion they hit you with their autoattack, Mortal Strike and then Overpower you anyway after you dodge their Hamstring. The trick to Evasion against Warriors is to use it early, not late; it won't save you if a single Overpower is going to kill you anyway, but early in a fight it's quite strong.

Gear helps, but try to learn how to Rupture kite.

Everyone has brought good points, but the other thing that I may have missed, but... Poison?!?!?!?

Crippling Poison is required in order to properly kite... are you using crippling poison on your weapons? Second poison is going to be what ever you prefer and what type of fights you are doing. Deadly poison is another good option, but it eliminates (hinders) your blind ability if you need a quick bandage in a one on one scenario.

If you are in a group fight like Arena, then the Wound Poison is your next best friend against a warrior to reduce healing from their teammates, or go with mind numbing poison to slow down the casters. Regardless, one of your weapons should always have crippling poison for any PvP and any mobs that like to run.

My $.02 which surprisingly is now only $.01 in Canadian... jk

Warrior wants you to go toe to toe and fight.. : ) My 59 warrior will eat a rogue if he just trys to out dps me. Better stun him up. Vanish. Anything to open again when he can't attack you.

No, no, and no.

You're not fighting the warrior, as much as you're fighting his RNG (random number generator).

I've had warriors white hit me twice during an Evasion, and both hit proced mace stuns. I lose those pretty bad and well, there's truly nothing you can do about it. Despite the odds of thing like that happening being fairly low, it seems to happens a lot based on my experience (then again, it's all about perception).

You have the correct idea on how to deal with them Jord, with more gear eventually, you WILL beat them in a 1v1 fight... assuming their RNG don't go insane on you.



Edited, Mar 16th 2008 5:32pm by Tyrandor