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#1 Mar 13 2008 at 7:40 AM Rating: Good
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I recently got my flyer and was exploring places that you need to fly to. I read about an orphanage up in the mountains of nagrand so I looked at that for a while. Was leaving when I came across that place where the fire elementals are and figured I would kill one to see how hard they were. Ended up killing one and some mage that was also up there /rude'ed me.

Well for whatever reason that just irked me so I figured I would stay a while and compete with him. What I discovered is that you mages seem to DESTROY those elementals at a rate that I was hard pressed to keep up. I mean he would take down 2 at the same time. My only real advantage was track elementals and I would have to send pet on one, shoot 1 to claim it and ice trap it, then sometimes kite another. I didn't stay very long.. part because it was kind of boring and I had other places to explore but mostly because to keep up I had juggle a bunch of mobs at once and it would just look so sad if I ended up getting killed while trying to be bad ***.

Are elementals just really weak to elemental magic? I mean he was able to sometimes kill 2 or 3 in the time I was killing one. Is that the norm for a mage against those or would you guess that he was probably a really well geared mage? I am actually leveling my mage (mid 20s) some and just wonder if elementals are always weak to elemental magic or if he was really good or if it's just that mages are eventually really strong against elementals?

Edited, Mar 13th 2008 12:30pm by MrTalos
#2 Mar 13 2008 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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Mages are just good at bursting things down, especially frost mages when frostbite procs or fire mages any time they get a crit. And we're excellent at fighting more than one thing at once if specced for it(if he's a frost mage, he might just be).

Though hunters tend to be faster at tagging mobs.
#3 Mar 13 2008 at 9:13 AM Rating: Good
Not sure if it's the same at higher levels, but I've also found that as my mage (36) I can take down certain elems with certain classes of spells. For example, using frost spells against fire elems, etc.
#4 Mar 13 2008 at 11:09 AM Rating: Default
As a fire build with the gear I have somthing missed if I don't 2 shot 70 eles. If 3 are in range i'm only slow'd by my fireball casting time.
#5 Mar 13 2008 at 3:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Not sure if it's the same at higher levels, but I've also found that as my mage (36) I can take down certain elems with certain classes of spells. For example, using frost spells against fire elems, etc.


Fire spells will not affect fire elementals nor frost water elementals... so I hope so :-)
#6 Mar 13 2008 at 8:41 PM Rating: Decent
as far as i know, elemental immunity is not a resistance thing. in other words, fire elementals will be immune to fire spells no matter how much +penetration, talents, curse of elements that you put on it.
#7 Mar 13 2008 at 9:15 PM Rating: Good
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LaFey wrote:
as far as i know, elemental immunity is not a resistance thing. in other words, fire elementals will be immune to fire spells no matter how much +penetration, talents, curse of elements that you put on it.


Yep.

Edit: To expand on this:

Actual resistances cap out at 75%. However, nothing resists 75% of each spell, it's an average that works out to 75% resistance(or however much resistance the target has). Some spells will be full resists, others 75% resists, others 50% resists, others 25% and some will be unresisted. But as you take the limit as the number of spells cast on the target approaches infinity, the percentage of damage resisted will approach 75%(or whatever the target's resistance is).

Edited, Mar 13th 2008 11:41pm by Poldaran
#8 Mar 14 2008 at 2:24 AM Rating: Good
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epicforsaken wrote:
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Not sure if it's the same at higher levels, but I've also found that as my mage (36) I can take down certain elems with certain classes of spells. For example, using frost spells against fire elems, etc.


Fire spells will not affect fire elementals nor frost water elementals... so I hope so :-)


Fire spells will affect Water Elementals and Frost Elementals, but Frost spells will not.

There is also something called, "Vulnerability damage", something akin to "It's Super-effective!" Go use fire spells on the Tar Lords and Tar Beasts and Tar Creepers in Un'Goro, and you'll see.
#9 Mar 14 2008 at 4:36 AM Rating: Good
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Raglu wrote:
epicforsaken wrote:
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Not sure if it's the same at higher levels, but I've also found that as my mage (36) I can take down certain elems with certain classes of spells. For example, using frost spells against fire elems, etc.


Fire spells will not affect fire elementals nor frost water elementals... so I hope so :-)


Fire spells will affect Water Elementals and Frost Elementals, but Frost spells will not.

There is also something called, "Vulnerability damage", something akin to "It's Super-effective!" Go use fire spells on the Tar Lords and Tar Beasts and Tar Creepers in Un'Goro, and you'll see.

Those are special, actually, and proc an extra damage randomly when hit with fire.

They're fun.
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