Heroic Tanking QuestionFollow

SP and UB are cake. Ramps is also good, but the second boss can be brutal if your group doesn't understand that Felhunters = Worthless tank with a pally.

Mech is relatively easy for a pally, except when the Destroyers or whatever get their Glowy Hands.

Order that I went with was SP, UB, Ramps, Mech, SV, and then at that point I was able to do all the others and Kara.

I range tank the second boss in Ramps. If no one melees with him, he will just sit there and spam shadow bolts. I just hold aggro with Avenger's Shield, Exorcism and Righteous Defense and the run goes as smooth as a baby's bottom.

There's no need to range tank the second boss in Ramparts if you are a protection paladin...if your dps can down him fairly quickly. All I do is judge+stun the first felhunter and focus it. On the second I judge it (this is only to get it's aggro on me) and then when I see either of them casting mana burn I just arcane torrent. As long as you have the felhunters on you it shouldn't be much of a problem honestly...better you than the caster dps/healer. =)

Arcane Torrent and SoV are the real faction specific abilities in my opinion. Seal of Blood is useless in 99% of any situations that I would get into and just doesn't offer anything to offset the the boss-threat generation of SoV (which is pretty much useless against anything but bosses).

Arcane Torrent on the other hand... Takes one of the 3 biggest Paladin weaknesses and gives us a little bone :D

I giggle inside everytime I see Alliance pallies crying on the O-Boards that Seal of Blood is "THE ZOMG BOMBZ!" and they just don't realize that the damage caused by it will NOT result in any meaningful mana regen through Spiritual Attunement. And because they're obviously Ret.

As for the OP... yea, what they all said. Mech is almost the exact same Heroic as it is Normal, even the hits you take aren't much worse. SP and UB are significantly harder than the NORMAL versions of them, but come on.. the normal versions have what.. level 64 mobs in them? Still a cakewalk.

Steam Vault isn't too bad either on Heroic.

Seal of Blood provides better DPS than SoCom. Try it, you may like it.

I'll never be wielding a 2 hander, nor a slow 1 hander.



I wouldn't spec for Command, but in the case of those who DO DPS... There are Theorycraft threads on Paladin forums just waiting to be searched that illustrate just how much more you get out of SoB in prolonged use (although it can't account for the reliability factor) and the difference for Ret Pallies is MUCH MUCH less than the threat difference of SoV for Protection. And the mana-regen through Spiritual Attunement is next to nil.

I have an older Alliance tanking Paladin that I play less and less (not because of the available skills, but rather because of friends and the fact that I only really played Alliance in the first place for Pallies pre-BC) and I've got to say that as a Main Tank, SoV was a HUGE difference in the ~450 spell Damage area.

I'm not saying Seal of Blood is useless to EVERYONE -- there are those that it will benefit, to whatever degree. I'm just saying that a Main Tank gets MUCH more out of SoV than any DPSer will get out of SoB anyday. Which brings me back to the first statement I made in my last post on the matter.. In my oppinion (which is based on my point of view, MT) Arcane Torrent and SoV are the REAL faction abilities, and SoB might as well be invisible.

Edited, Mar 14th 2008 12:57am by Losie

hmn this thread is getting interesting since tank requirements for heroics in the priest thread is always being discussed.

my question is, and i just can't seem to find the thread at the moment, at what point do u know gear wise, that you are ready to tank the easiest of heroics?