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#1 Mar 11 2008 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
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I got messaged last night by a 55 hunter asking to invite him to Scholo while my wife and I were getting her Pali mount quest done. (fighting that boss at that time)

I told him we were leaving and that he should just quest in a few zones to level up and get some money.

He told me that his pet sucked as it never held aggro. With this I asked him what pet was he using.

He told me he was using a bird. So I asked him the first thing I could think of. Was his Growl and Screech up to date

He asked what screech was and said it was a bird it can't growl... OH NOES!

I /facepalm and went into explaining this to him the functionality of growl and that any pet can learn it. He was like, my pet doesn't have either of them.

I told him to train these to his bird and start doing quests in the crator, eastern plaguelands, or Wintersprings. he told me he did all those quests already and he was still 55. I told him go check again. which apon complaints about his pet not holding aggro on mobs in Hellfire I reminded him of the level difference and also told him not to unload all his abilities on the mob.

He started complaining so I told him I was getting off and logged out.

Sorry about the long story but...

Is it really possible for someone to continue trying to levelall the way to 55 without growl on a pet? To me that just seems rediculous.

Meh... just a story I thought I would share...
#2 Mar 11 2008 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
Yeah, sadly that can happen. They just seem to get by when it is easy even if they don't know what to do. Then when knowing what to do gets important... well your case was the answer.
#3 Mar 11 2008 at 12:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Level without growl... level MM... same shit, same taste.

I wouldn't stand it.
#4 Mar 11 2008 at 12:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Leveling Marksman is actually still easier than leveling without growl.
#5 Mar 12 2008 at 2:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Leveling Marksman is actually still easier than leveling without growl.

I totally agreed, though I thought Utarius' post was funny, then rethought my decision. It should read:
"Leveling Marksman WAS actually still easier than..."
In beginning lvl 70 Epics and the higher Tiers, i'd like to see a MM hunter's pet hold aggro past a boar's initial charge :D

#6 Mar 12 2008 at 2:51 AM Rating: Default
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HitashLevat wrote:
To me that just seems rediculous.


Sorry... I have to go a bit off topic and become the grammar police. You just performed one of my BIGGEST pet-peeves.

The word "Ridiculous" means "worthy of ridicule." What I don't understand is why people never seem to misspell "ridicule," but as soon as they have to drop the "e" and add an "ous," they forget what the word is.


But yeah... It just seems awful that hunters can get to level 55 and not have any idea what they're doing. It's been a really long time since I've had a level 10 hunter, but as I recall, the trainer never really explains the Pet Trainers. Usually I'm against making the game easier, but I really do think that there should be more emphasis on how to handle and maintain pets IN GAME. It really seems as though you have to go outside of the game to forums and guides to learn anything about trainers and, more importantly, how to learn new pet skills from the wild.
#7 Mar 12 2008 at 6:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah I made the same mistake up to 20 or so and I wanted to stop playing my hunter as the damn thing wouldn't tell me where to go to train them.

I mean I bought all the skills... Hell I even asked 60s (Pre BC) how to train my pet and they told me I couldn't.

I had the strat guide telling me to learn all these skills but didn't tell me how to train the pet and I almost quit until I found someone actually using growl on their pet and said... That's what I wanted on my pet how do I do that?

I had been playing about 3 days or so by then.

I definately agree that they should explain the pet training a little better. I just don't see as knowing what I delt with all the way to 20 how anyone would be able to stand it all the way to 55.

wow... just wow...
#8 Mar 12 2008 at 9:39 AM Rating: Decent
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I didn't start training Growl on my pets until my hunter was lv 40. Sad, I know, my guildmates had to explain it to me. I had a pretty good reason I think though. Was my first character and on the training list I never saw any Training Point value next to any of the Growls listed so I just assumed there was no point value because every pet I ever had was unable to train it (and I was frequently changing pet types trying to find the one that would show a point value, hence meaning I could train it). When I was explained that it was free hence the lack of points listed, I felt pretty stupid.

So yea, it's possible :)
#9 Mar 12 2008 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
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But at least you knew you could train your pet. That was my point. Even I knew I could train my pet... Just couldn't for the life of me find it.

(I overlook things quite frequently... I swear I'd loose my Sunglasses on my head if they weren't sitting on my nose... JK not quite that bad but still)

He didn't have even screech or know what screech was. He was so quick to shoot down growl by going to Hellfire at 55 and say his pet couldn't hold aggro on a Red mob... I said dude chill out and fight something yellow and you'll do fine and growl won't get resisted so much.
#10 Mar 12 2008 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Yea i remember having to ask another hunter how to train my pet when i was around lvl 15 or so.

I'm not even going to say what level i was when i finally figured out how to turn them on and off.

#11 Mar 12 2008 at 1:00 PM Rating: Decent
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On the bright side I'm sure his melee skills were maxed for his level =P

Thankfully I leveled my Hunter with my brother who already had a level 60 hunter. So any noobish questions I had, I could just ask him. I leveled with his shaman, so when he noticed I was doing something stupid, he'd just point it out and tell me how I should be doing it. For example, leaving Growl on in a party... had many a pet death before he told me to turn it off =P
#12 Mar 12 2008 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I met a lvl 65 pally that never did the rez quest... guess which one of us got humiliated across the trade channel? and its not kitty
#13 Mar 12 2008 at 1:50 PM Rating: Good
Ive seen Survival hunters, that grab that spec, and melee, because "all the melee talents are amazing! Im a rogue with windclip". Smiley: banghead
#14 Mar 13 2008 at 1:17 AM Rating: Decent
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On my first pet , a cat , i had cower and growl and got to around level 20 before a decent hunter explained about cower as i misread what its effects were , i thought it meant i was less likely to get attacked not my pet. I soon sorted that out with a pet re-training session..

Many still think the pets can only be trained by the trainer , i wish they would add a little dialogue to the trainers to explain that bite claw and others are learnt from beasts.
#15 Mar 13 2008 at 3:25 AM Rating: Decent
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My memory is a bit foggy about my first few weeks playing WoW over 2 years ago... But I do recall understanding the concept of the pet trainer, but I didn't know that you had to go into YOUR spellbook, and click on the beast training button to actually choose which skills the pet learned.
#16 Mar 13 2008 at 6:53 AM Rating: Decent
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At his rate of ignorance:

Levelling without Growl = Melee hunter



Without the ignorance he could have made one hell of a Kiter. With 55 levels of pure practice...

Meh, my vote is still on him being a Melee hunter...
#17 Mar 13 2008 at 8:18 AM Rating: Decent
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I used to have a manager at work that got a warlock to 42 without spending a single talent point. Not because he wanted the challenge, but because he thought they cost gold to use. It took about a month worth of explaining (not exaggerating) before he finally learned the key details. Such as:
1) They aren't permanent
2) You don't need to talk to a trainer to use the points you have
3) It takes no time at all
4) To use them, you go to your talents box and just click the boxxes in the window

Had to repeat all those about 3-4 times before he finally figured it out.
#18 Mar 13 2008 at 8:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Darigraz wrote:
I met a lvl 65 pally that never did the rez quest... guess which one of us got humiliated across the trade channel? and its not kitty


LOL that reminds me of the Pali in my SL group that went and did his rez quest right before the run because he "never Needed it".
#19 Mar 13 2008 at 8:48 AM Rating: Decent
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ProjectMidnight wrote:
My memory is a bit foggy about my first few weeks playing WoW over 2 years ago... But I do recall understanding the concept of the pet trainer, but I didn't know that you had to go into YOUR spellbook, and click on the beast training button to actually choose which skills the pet learned.


This was mine as well. At 26 I had every available training skill including the ones I was suppose to learn from mobs. Bite 1-3, gore 1-3, claw 1-4(I think) Screech 1.

I was using the strategy guide to find what mobs had them and kept them until (you learn______ rank _) popped up and then abandoned them. Had no idea that it was in my spell book. However I did know something was wrong cause my pet had like 100 some training points lol.
#20 Mar 14 2008 at 7:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Oh, as to the question of ridicule --> rediculous...while the two words share the same root of ridicul-, they do sound different. Most people pronounce ridicule as "ri-da-cue-l" whereas the first syllable of ridiculous is usually elongated into "ree-dic-you-lus." I know I'm not using the proper phonetic spelling, but you get my drift. Whether or not "ree-" or "ri" is the proper way to pronounce ridiculous, it's what it seems like. Oh, and most people don't know anything about etymology.

Edited, Mar 14th 2008 8:07am by skribs
#21 Mar 14 2008 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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skribs wrote:
Oh, and most people don't know anything about etymology.


eh?
#22 Apr 03 2008 at 7:36 AM Rating: Good
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My memory is a bit foggy about my first few weeks playing WoW over 2 years ago... But I do recall understanding the concept of the pet trainer, but I didn't know that you had to go into YOUR spellbook, and click on the beast training button to actually choose which skills the pet learned.


Blatant necropost here, but can we get this added to the sticky? Embarassing to admit, but the only ability my pet has (19 hunter) is Claw and my girlfriend (29 hunter) is even worse off--all her pet has is Cower ffs. Didn't realize what was wrong until I found my pet holding aggro better than hers when we duo'd WC last night.

Searched two sites and dug 3 pages into this forum before I found this description.
#23 Apr 03 2008 at 7:46 AM Rating: Decent
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send Mulgrin (writer of the FAQ) a pm, he'll edit it in if it isnt there yet.

Edited, Apr 3rd 2008 5:47pm by Aethien
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