Chat with a GM about shaman statusFollow

I KNOW!

ill drive down to irvine and ill ask the manager at the in n out burger that blizzard employees go to for lunch and see what he thinks about the shaman situation!

and then ill get some animal style fries, and all will be well with the world.

Just to throw this out there. I play way too much to be considered a 'casual' gamer but when I dinged 70 on my shaman /played was 27 days 56 hours.

Sad? Not at all. Sure, a real life friend and I spent an awful amount of time swimming the coast around Stormwind, exploring unknown islands(I ran off in Ghost Wolf and rezzed him later if we pulled the '??' aggro :D), and the general "Think we can do that?" fun. I have owned the game for a little over a year and a half and I dinged 70 within the last month.

You can call it sad that some people take a longer time to level but I'll call it sad when I see someone taking the game so seriously that they stoop to belittling other players, harassing Blizzard employees, and ridiculing the skill of others that they aren't as 'leet' as themselves.

Just my opinion.

Exactly what I did. I have 9 alts on Aerie Peak (which is my main server) as well as a mid-level rogue on Executus to satisfy my PvP yearning.

I wasn't, however, suggesting that most players did this. I was simply stating that it was in no way "sad" that I was slow about things. Its just a different play style.

Just to throw a little wood on the fire....

I had a very similar conversation with a GM after reporting a glitch (Banthar I think..).

After fixing the glitch the GM asked the usual: "Is there anything else?"

(Bear in mind this conversation is from ~6 months ago now, and from memory so it's not word for word accurate)

"When are you guys gonna fix vanish? I get pulled out of vanish by pets all the time. This makes a rogue pretty lame in PVP."

GM:"This is an issue we are aware of and are looking into it."

Me:"Do you know if it is being addressed in the upcomming patch?"

GM:"Information on the patch has not been finalized so I am not sure"



Yeah well....I rolled a Dr00d.

Now I can stealth, and heal and pewpewpewpewpew!!!

*Added bonus:

I get to Hibernate those same Hunter pets that pulled my Rogue out of stealth!

:)

On the bright side at least you didn't get: "Sorry, not working as intended"


Edited, Mar 14th 2008 1:05pm by RaideroftheBlade

Once opened a ticket about something just like it. Of course, this was back when the Shaman class was the god mode of the game and every single developer was believed to be playing an Orc Shaman.

Anyways, I opened a ticket and wrote that I'd discovered a flaw in the game design seeing as I just managed to not only (barely) survive a level 40 Shaman jumping my level 50 Warlock in Tanaris, but I also (barely) managed to kill him, using only my healthstone, instant minion summon and soulstone.

I was pretty pissed off since that little **** came so close to kicking my *** despite the level difference and I was fed up with the Shaman imbalance going on at the time.

Anywho, I got a reply from a Game Master who did the usual *poof* RP thing in the chat. He then asked me if he could have a moment of my time to discuss my ticket. He wanted to let me know that the ticket had been sent to a senior staff member who was, as we spoke, in the process of printing out triplicates, having already sent the first copy by orderly to the developers' dungeon. I was to rest assured that this glitch would be fixed as soon as possible and then he thanked me for the beer, because apparently he had been wagering with a coworker about the imbalance of the class and now he had the proof he needed.

The funny thing is that the server was brought down for emergency maintenance a few moments later and when it came back online, everything was screwed up. Of course, this had nothing to do with my ticket and everything to do with the state of the server back then, but I couldn't help but

Yep, when Shaman were Horde only, there was massive whining about how overpowered shaman were.

And as a Hordie, I never got to fight against them, but I definitely could see that Shaman was not underpowered.

Here's a piece of WoW history:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4TyqYsC26g

Dang it Mazra it is all your fault

Well basically i think you should send a feedback to blizzard about your issues being not able to pvp. I have not pvped with a shaman before but i do understand your feelings about it. Just as i think locks are overpowered. Maybe i should just post my encounter with the GM. During my farming at Nagrand for motes, the locks always banishes my target and this annoyed me as this was a waste of time. Complained to GM. I am pretty sure that others would have opened a ticket with GM about this too. With the new patch this was corrected. You just need to know to whom you can bring your issues to. However I wouldn;t say opening a ticket with GM is wrong either. You opened one and he directed you to send a feedback to blizzard just as what i did. So i encourage you to send your feedback to blizzard and see how it goes eventhough i think little can be done about this. Just my 2 cents.

Cheers

I don't think you should have put in a GM call over something like that. You seem to be passionate about your shaman and it seems you didn't feel that shamans were getting the attention they needed so I can sort of understand doing something like this in frustration but the GMs aren't going to have anything to do with anything as far as game design goes.


If you really liked a class and you thought something was wrong with it that could be fixed, would you just change jobs/quit the game or would you try to fight to get the changes made? Me.. I would probably just change classes or quit the game. I have never felt all that passionately about much anything (ask my GF). I am pretty much a roll with the punches type. That works for me but some people feel strongly enough to fight for what they believe in. I don't get it but those are the types of people who change the world.
As sad as it is to say, often it is the QQ that gets things done. It's unfortunate but those who don't complain are generally ignored (as a whole) when they do make changes and they try to silence the QQers by giving in. That doesn't mean they will destroy their game in the process of doing it but if they had a chance to fix only one class, they will go with which ever one QQs the most.


I think you are right but people naturally complain to whoever it is they can reach. Who else is the child going to go to? They don't have access to any of the people who actually have a say so they will go to the "next best thing" a person who works with the people who have a say even if they themselves do not. If the child was complaining to like the guy down the street who sells hot dogs that would be a bit dumb.
It's silly but I see it often. I will be in line at the gas station and a person who just filled up their tank will complain to the girl behind the counter that's making $5 a hour about how it is outrageous that gas prices are so high. Does she have a single damn thing in the world to do with the price that is being charged for gas? Not in the least, but I guess people see the person behind the counter as their closest link to getting their message across to the people who can. Why do tech support people in call centers catch so much hell? They have nothing to do with you not liking this or that about a product or that you think the price for X or Y is outrageous but they still end up hearing that crap often. You can tell a person a thousand times that you don't have anything to do with what they are talking about but the person will still keep right on.

As far as I can tell, there is no developer ticket. You can send feedback to them or something like that but for all you know it's going right into the trash. People can actually speak with a GM. Actually communicate with them. The GM has NO say what so ever on the subject but you know that a human being has heard your complaints/concerns even if goes in one ear and out the other. The simple fact of the matter is it seems a person would rather actually interact with a person who has no say on a matter than possibly have something sent to the correct person but never know either way.

I would have to assume that the OP is.. paraphrasing.. I think the word is. I know I don't do well when I try and remember exactly how things were said after the fact. It's hard to tell with GMs. I have run into those that you almost think they copy and paste what they say right from the manual but also I have run into a few that were off the wall and were a lot more like an actual person.


Could have been sarcasm. He/She seems to keep asking if they are joking and when it appears the OP isn't, they give that as an answer to sort of end the conversation.

Who knows.

Edited, Mar 21st 2008 8:53pm by MrTalos

Says the man who just wept for a whole paragraph.

As arrogant as this may sound (claiming proficiency seems to be a cardinal sin around here), I have a good deal of Arena experience with five of the game's classes, courtesy of friends of mine who let me play their characters in the 1800s bracket when they're offline (Im in a...different time zone...). These characters are Hunter, Paladin, Warlock, Shaman and Priest. Bar none, the Shaman is the worst. I've played him specced Resto and Elemental and in both cases he just plain sucks. The toons have roughly equivalent mixes of S2 and S3, and the Shaman is just painful to play. Elemental... less said the better. You're a Nature Mage who can't Blink or Poly, and you have about the same HP. Resto is a little better because the nukeheals can be quite substantial and Nature's Swiftness is nice, but nobody will ever let you cast any.

Pump fake? Fscking PUMP FAKE? When you're pump-faking you arent healing for a start, which means someone on your team is getting ground into the tarmac. Secondly, your suggestion presumes that the other team doesnt know about fake healing, which you may be well assured (past 1800) that they do. So, either you invest more time in faking them out to make it look more real (meaning you are effectively CCing yourself, they dont even have to spend cooldowns to silence you) or you...erm...spec Elemental?

The complete lack of lockout protection makes healing as a Shaman a race against time until someone notices the glowing green hands. Ah but, I hear you say, your teammates will save you!

Precisely. Pre-fscking-cisely. They will have to. The Shaman at that point is effectively dead meat, the rest of the team must invest capable attention in saving their stunned, silenced and stricken comrade. That attention and resource ought to be spent controlling the other team, forcing them to react to you.

Instead, the Shaman becomes basically a weak spot around which the rest of the team is forced to react, as they simply cannot survive on their own.

Fine if you're sick of Shaman whining, but people who think whining about whining will stop the whining are dumb. That's like fucking for celibacy.

there are certain conditions that exist for each class that makes them "dead meat". a skilled rogue on a priest shuts that priest down better than anything else. a mage or a druid is capable of making a warrior completely useless, while a good 4 dps team can turn a warrior into a huge liability. a paladin can destroy a druid more effectively than any other class. thats just how the game goes, and its not unique to the shaman class.

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