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#1 Mar 10 2008 at 12:35 AM Rating: Decent
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rogue wow forums? fudge to that for just a moment

as you may or may not know... super smash bros brawl is out! /yay

seeing how long ive been helpin yall o the boards, or adding nonsense to discussions, or just being an idiot... i think this is another decent place to ask

got brawl? got online? post your fc ^_-


non-wii players can flame all ya want... but it would be fun to 2v2 brawl me and theo vs demea and nooble or whatever, for example :D lolz

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#2 Mar 10 2008 at 12:37 AM Rating: Decent
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I'll post mine up tomorrow, I'm about to go zone out and play some SSBB and pass out.

Need to beat story mode asap for Sonic! Smiley: frown
#3 Mar 10 2008 at 12:41 AM Rating: Decent
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lolz, im still tryin to unlock toon link... all the other guys i sue i got already
#4 Mar 10 2008 at 12:45 AM Rating: Decent
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sill not available in england :(
had my wii for well over a year and not hooked it up to the internet, but for brawl i might just have to0.
#5 Mar 10 2008 at 2:29 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm bad. Smiley: grin
#6 Mar 10 2008 at 3:49 AM Rating: Default
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that game rules SO HARD.

bowser, ganondorf, and ike are my three favs. im all sadface that they took bowsers "come here im gonna eat you" move out, but at least they replaced it with something that lets me kill people by committing suicide. god never closes a door without opening a window! or something.
#7 Mar 10 2008 at 6:57 AM Rating: Decent
Yeah, I rape face with Meta Knight.
#8 Mar 10 2008 at 7:02 AM Rating: Good
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This is one of the games that make me want a Wii. Smiley: frown Not sure i can get one, maybe i can use its cuteness to work the wife over.
#9 Mar 10 2008 at 7:49 AM Rating: Decent
cant say iv ever been a fan of SSB, although i have heard good things about brawl, and the trailor looked pretty sweet

i may have to go rob my cousins Wii for a few weeks >=)


i work at CEX so get wii's for cheap, and it always makes me laugh when people ring up and ask
"how much will you give me for my wii?"

who would pay some1 to go to the toilet.....damn im immature

Edited, Mar 10th 2008 11:51am by redbarronthesecond
#10 Mar 10 2008 at 8:27 PM Rating: Good
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Zelda is viable without having to turn into Sheik.
Pikachu is actually... powerful.
#11 Mar 10 2008 at 10:17 PM Rating: Default
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Falco/Wolf are my two faves ATM.

Other than that, you really can't go wrong with Link in SSB:B, as opposed to older versions.

Ike is too slow, though. I was hoping he'd be Roy v2.0.
#12 Mar 11 2008 at 1:52 AM Rating: Good
Ike is okay, Marth is flat-out amazing now though.

Actually, one of the better characters is Snake. He's surprisingly fast and his hits are hard. The Nikita (forward-B) is also the worlds greatest edgeguard once you get used to it, and he has a flat-out amazing recovery move.

Also, you can plant C4 on people. That's fun. He also has one of the best Final Smashes in the game.

Kirby is probably overpowered, except that his Final Smash blows. Marth, as previously mentioned, is quite strong... just like the last game, except they amped up his forward-B move so it's not as annoying. His Final Smash is also an auto-KO if it connects (read: if you're anywhere near him, front or back). Meta Knight is pretty fun too, but I need to get the hang of his flying since I'm finding it difficult to hit things at the moment.

Pit is borderline obscene with a ridiculous forward-B and a nutso shield down-B as well as some strong Smash attacks until people realize how to shut down your recovery move (see: Nikita), at which point you're toast. It's good, but unlike nearly every other recovery move it doesn't 'reset' if you get hit... hence problems.
#13 Mar 11 2008 at 2:11 AM Rating: Good
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snake is WAY fun. laying claymore mines, sticking remote bombs onto people, setting up juggle combos with a charged up+smash...hes quite fun.

ike takes some getting used too. his moves require a lot of setup generally, but its offset by his massive range, which is one of the longer ones, if not the longest. the trick to ike is knowing when to use your few fast moves (side+B special, his normal neutral A three-hit combo) and how to properly set up your slower moves. once you get the timing down hes a brutal character to play, and also fairly hard to kill thanks to the charging capability of his side+B and the height gain of his up+B. another trick to know is that his neutral B eruption move apparently has flinch resistance (or immunity? maybe) in the last half of the move, as he thrusts his sword into the ground. eruption also hits in a fairly large area, larger than it looks. timed right, it can make for some really effective kill shots.

im exceedingly happy with what theyve done with this game. bowser is a true powerhouse, exactly what id imagine a gigantic dinosaur-like creature would feel like to play. theres nothing like a giga bowser rampage to make your day brighter.

wario is also loads of fun too. theres nothing like playing on the kart stage and winning a sudden death round with a jump off the ramp ending in a motorcycle to the face. except maybe a giga bowser rampage.

Edited, Mar 11th 2008 3:25am by Quor
#14 Mar 11 2008 at 7:31 PM Rating: Default
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#15 Mar 11 2008 at 8:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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Zip, do you actually take pleasure in gaming, or is it all just a question of solving the puzzle, then beating the dead horse until something new comes along?
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#16 Mar 11 2008 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Sonic is amazing, and I'm finally getting the hang of Ike.

I also started to use Zelda/Sheik, and she rocks pretty hard too.

Probably my three favorite characters to play. Ike because he owns so hard, Sheik because she's a ******* ninja, and Sonic because while he's hard to play, he's so goddamn fun.
#17 Mar 12 2008 at 1:06 AM Rating: Good
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i <3 zelda/sheik. zelda more than sheik; i like the slower, chess-like playstyle. but sheik is good for keeping people on their toes and general mass group destruction.
#18 Mar 12 2008 at 6:34 AM Rating: Good
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in all seriousness

ice climbers and ness... so good omg... but that game is just filled with fun chars so its all good for anyone who plays

just cant take it that seriously hehe

otherwise, when would i get my generic pokemon trainer fix? ivysaur throwing pokeballs on the dialga stage? 4 way ffa of all pokemon trainers, high pokeballs and smash balls only?

his smash is super effective! lol its awesome the silly stuff you can do mid-game

i think umm sometime this weekend, like sunday? lets get a allakhazam game session goin! ill bring you all to your knees with pk fire -> down smash -> aerial back-a combos all day long

^_-


and just a side note, kirby swallowing zelda is broken as ****, i went on a 9 kill streak after gettin some of that nayru love... fear mallet reflecter combos

Edited, Mar 12th 2008 10:36am by mongoosexcore
#19 Mar 12 2008 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Ike is OP. Pit's sound effect when he spams his forward B attack gets annoying after awhile. >.>
#20 Mar 12 2008 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
Demea wrote:
Zip, do you actually take pleasure in gaming, or is it all just a question of solving the puzzle, then beating the dead horse until something new comes along?


I'm really not sure what this is in reference to, actually. I like playing games with friends; I also like beating them if I can. Figuring out ways to counter them after they sit there spamming Ike's forward-B on you a few times is usually a good idea. I guess I could have said "Snake gud, Olivar bad!" but I tend to analyze what's going on in more detail than that.

Figuring out that I could Nikita Pit to death after he kicked my *** a few times was a nice revelation.
#21 Mar 12 2008 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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I understand you said it as an example, RPZip, but Captain Olimar is DEFINITELY not bad. He's an amazing character. The Pikmin system is well implemented.

I haven't seen the true power of the Pokemon Trainer yet. I've always seen people play only as Squirtle while picking him-- no Ivysaurs, no Charizards.







So has anyone else been comparing character playstyles to WoW classes? <.<

Zelda plays like a mage (hard B-side for longrange fireball, neutral B for melee-range projectile reflector and knockback, like a fireball and frost nova), Olimar plays like a warlock (throws pikmin that starts beating up while Olimar has freedom to do other action), Metaknight plays like a ShS rogue (for obvious reasons)...
#22 Mar 12 2008 at 1:21 PM Rating: Good
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that might be why i like bowser and ganondorf so much. they hit hard and can take an insane amount of punishment.

as for the pokemon trainer, find im best with ivysaur and charizard, but im gettnig used to squirtle. squirtle is a good edge guarder with his rolling shell move and water gun, while ivysaur is great at vertically-oriented battlefields. charizard is the powerhouse obviously, and the combination of his gliding, his fly move, and his rock pound make it hard to edge guard vs him. also, triple attack goes thru walls. my friends and i found that out a few nights ago (much to their detriment).
#23 Mar 12 2008 at 4:01 PM Rating: Good
Raglu wrote:
I understand you said it as an example, RPZip, but Captain Olimar is DEFINITELY not bad. He's an amazing character. The Pikmin system is well implemented.


Seriously?

The Pikmin were way too easy to block and he has no real special moves other than them. His attacks are relatively weak with an unimpressive recovery move. What about him makes him good? I'll admit I didn't spend loads of time with him but he seemed... bad. Really bad.

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I haven't seen the true power of the Pokemon Trainer yet. I've always seen people play only as Squirtle while picking him-- no Ivysaurs, no Charizards.


Mostly because the two of them aren't as good as Squirtle is, although on the whole he's decidedly mediocre.
#24 Mar 12 2008 at 5:19 PM Rating: Good
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RPZip wrote:
Raglu wrote:
I understand you said it as an example, RPZip, but Captain Olimar is DEFINITELY not bad. He's an amazing character. The Pikmin system is well implemented.


Seriously?

The Pikmin were way too easy to block and he has no real special moves other than them. His attacks are relatively weak with an unimpressive recovery move. What about him makes him good? I'll admit I didn't spend loads of time with him but he seemed... bad. Really bad.


Well, see, I didn't spend much time with Pit. And when I played as him, I thought he was terrible. His smash attacks have no range to them, his arrow was too fast for me to curve, and gliding takes practice. Other people told me Pit was great, that he was cheap, that he was overpowered, that he's their main pick.

I've a friend who's chosen Olimar as his main character of choice, and I've seen him play Olimar plenty. Using Pikmin as a simple long-range attack to spam is improper use-- it's best to use it like how Falco's ray-gun is to be used, in opportune times when the opponent is recovering from either being hit away from the stage or a missed attack with a long recovery time. When the red one is to be thrown, it works well as a normal throw. Yellow ones are long distance. White ones are long distance with less kick but more damage than yellow. I don't know what's so special about blue yet.

And the purple ones, they're your Smash attack when in normal melee range. They kick butt. It's not about piling up Pikmin to beat them off. Spamming the A button will clear them off fast (noticeable with Fox, Sheik, Metaknight). It's simply the ranged (or smash) attack for getting in snippits of damage (or massive knockback).

Olimar is a complex character, and takes practice, just like how Pit and Snake do. I can ask my friend to give the rundown on Olimar later, right now he's Smashing with a guildie.





Also, I heard rumors that Super Saiyan Sonic can't go off the edge of the screen to obliteration accidentally. That true?




Edit: For clarity, all Pikmin can be used for a Smash attack. Purple ones are surefire knockouts, pretty much, unless there's like no damage.

Edited, Mar 12th 2008 9:28pm by Raglu
#25 Mar 12 2008 at 5:56 PM Rating: Good
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ya, each pikmin has their own properties. yellow is lightning, blue ice, red fire, purple poisons...cant remember what white does tho. this is in addition to what raglu said. you can use olimars down b to switch the order of the pikmin to get a proper color at the ready, and throw your pikmin off the world if you need to get rid of some so you can pull up others.

ive yet to really figure olimar out, but hes definetely more than he seems.
#26 Mar 12 2008 at 5:56 PM Rating: Good
I'll give him some more time, just that the Pikmin didn't seem terribly impressive. I've been wrong before; if the Purple ones are that good he could be decent (think Game and Watch - good luck means you win).
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