Ready to tank Gruul?Follow

i honestly dont know, but if i had a guess i would say your HP is low. But im saying that because my gear is bleh and i have the same amount of HP.

Your HP actually shouldn't be too much of a problem (it's a bit low, raid buffs and a flask cover a lot), but the major problem here is that you're still crushable. When Gruul pops you one for 9k+, you'll know you're not ready. I'm doing quick math, but unless you pull around another 3% avoidance out of your *** you're going to eat a crushing blow at some point and chances are it's going to wipe you guys. You'll basically just keep doing the fight until you get lucky. Remember that he silences, too, so you're going to want to save your trinket cool downs for those occasions.

Also, who else is tanking Kiggler with you, because you can't do that job either.

For the avoidance kings adds another 2% ish to my dodge, pushes my health to 14k, plus I am going to stick a +12 dodge and +15 agi to my hands tonight which should do it.

Can you elaborate on the kiggler part though? We have done the research but not the fight and nothing is as good as actual experience.

Edit: Also, I thought you were uncrushable at 490 defense? Or am I missing something else?

Edited, Mar 7th 2008 2:42pm by DrkMateo

Edited, Mar 7th 2008 2:44pm by DrkMateo

490 defense to be uncrittable.

102.something% avoidance to be uncrushable.

You'll eat some 1.5x damage crushing blows, but no 2x damage crits.

You're uncrittable at 490 defense. You aren't uncrushable until 102.4% total avoidance. If you're going to be the threat ceiling, you're going to want to be able to do this while maintaining fairly high spell power (Unstable Flask of the Sorcerer is a good choice for flask, FYI) and having a high HP pool. If you can find a way to cover the 7.5% avoidance from the Libram I would try to switch it out for the Libram of Divine Purpose for the extra damage on Judgements or the Consecrate libram from Sethekk Halls for extra threat.


To check your avoidance, plug in this macro:



Pop Holy Shield, then hit the macro and it will give you your avoidance w/ Holy Shield up.

As far as tanking Kiggler goes, he does an AoE knock back if someone interrupts his cast, most of his damage comes from lightning bolts (and thus you won't be getting shield blocks), and he polymorphs his highest threat target at random, proceeding to go on an insane rampage through the raid since the poly can't be dispelled. Generally we've tanked him using hunters or shadow priests since they have very high threat generation and attack from range. You need 2 for this. If you have a moonkin druid they can do it solo, just shifting out of poly.

I thought since Druids are immune to Polymorph when shifted that they would be immune to Kiggler's Poly as well?

Anyways, adding myself to the "No, not ready yet" list of people here. If you're not uncrushable for Grull, you will fail, unless maybe you get lucky and have very high raid DPS. The longer the fight goes, the harder it is to keep a tank up, and adding in potential crushing blows is just that much worse.

And yes, you should be tanking Blindeye or possibly Olm (in addition to his enslaved Fel puppies) for reasons already mentioned, not Kiggler (or Krosh, but I will assume you know that one :D).

EDIT: ok, ran over your gear again, and it seems you are uncrushable. Maybe some gear was changed since the other posters posted? Or maybe I somehow screwed up my math. Meh, still think your unbuffed health may be a bit low. Would also use either a Heavy Knothide Armor Kit (+10 stamina) or a 20 spell damage enchant on your gloves, instead of the Strength enchant. The agility gem in your helm and agility enchant on your cloak would be better served with a Glowing Nightseye and 12 Dodge enchant as well, imo.

Edited, Mar 7th 2008 2:07pm by Maulgak

Yep. We always had one do it back in the day, and he was definitely immune(kind of a pain when he gets MC'ed on Malacrass nowadays, though).