Ok, So I just recently got into PvP on my mage. I know that frost is said to be the PvP spec of choice, but I just dropped a ton of time and gold switching to fire for raids and I do not plan to pay 390g (Respec + Tailor respec costs) just to PvP. So I read the sticky and seen the 33/28/0 build for PvP as an arcane/fire PvP mage.
Now the question I ask of you all is do you use mostly fire spells with this build? The sticky said about burst damage, I know about AP/PoM/Pyro, but the other instant in the fire tree is fireblast, which this particular build does not buff meaning it has a longer cooldown.
There was a back to back 6k crit mentioned in there...was that an AP/PoM/Pyro followed by another Pyro. So it was like 6 second death?
I am just curious about spell rotations or spell usage in PvP. I am very "wet behind the ears" so to speak when it comes to PvP. I mostly raid and farm, but I am going to try something new!
Edited, Mar 7th 2008 1:21pm by compgenius
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I currently do pvp with a deep arcane build (42/19/0), and I mostly use either scorch or arcane missiles. I also use fireblast anytime the cooldown is up. I wouldn't suggest pvping with this build unless you have quite a bit of spell damage and you have a mystic skyfire diamond as well as the lighting capacitor. I use scorch/fireblast until I get an MSD proc, then fire off Arcane Missiles. They hit for 800-1100 per tick, every 1/2 second, and it flat out owns people. I also use slow on those pesky classes that kick my tail (locks & rogues). If you have the damage for it, you can rock the BGs. I almost never use fireball or pyroblast, and I use POM Pyro as a finisher, or to put pressure on a healer to heal themselves, but since resilience was added, POM Pyro is not nearly as useful because you don't get big 'jaw dropping' hits.
I originally specced this way because I didn't want to drop a ton of gold respeccing both my tailoring & my mage every week.
I originally specced this way because I didn't want to drop a ton of gold respeccing both my tailoring & my mage every week.
I made the mistake of going through the respec+tailor costs a couple of times, complete waste. I mean you can't hardly do arenas in FSW gear, so just use whatever gear you have of yours that has the most stam in it (I have a few sets, so it works out for me) and then just play with that.
Arcane Blast can be effective if you have the mana for it (very mana intensive)
I too would use arcane missle and an insta pyro for my finisher but don't count out the insta sheep either. Especially if you know they have a pvp trinket (insta sheep then start recasting a second after they are hit)
I too would use arcane missle and an insta pyro for my finisher but don't count out the insta sheep either. Especially if you know they have a pvp trinket (insta sheep then start recasting a second after they are hit)
I get the ol' Sheep, Pyro, POM Pyro off a fair bit....usually 1 crits, sometimes double Pyro crit FTW!
This seems to work especially well on rogues; if you can trick 'em into popping his trinket on a frost nova!
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This seems to work especially well on rogues; if you can trick 'em into popping his trinket on a frost nova!
Rogues have 3 ways to get out of a frost nova. 1) vanish 2) imp sprint (most likely) 3) trinket.
Rogues will use their trinket to get out of a sheep, not a frost nova, and if they vanish, you will get cheap shotted with crippling poison.
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This seems to work especially well on rogues; if you can trick 'em into popping his trinket on a frost nova!
Rogues have 3 ways to get out of a frost nova. 1) vanish 2) imp sprint (most likely) 3) trinket.
Rogues will use their trinket to get out of a sheep, not a frost nova, and if they vanish, you will get cheap shotted with crippling poison.
You did mention the three ways we can get out of frost nova.
When I vanish on a mage I won't be cheap shotting him or her, as they can just blink right out of it. Instead I'll use Garrote, which silences, then a Shiv for the Crippling poison. Weapon swap macro for a different shiv poison. Probably Deadly, or something. Envenom has been very nice to me with 2500 to 4000 point crits.
Ah, kewl kewl.... I'll remember that for my rogue (he's only lvl 22 now, but... muahhahahahah)...
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