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#1 Mar 07 2008 at 10:06 AM Rating: Default
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Thorium+Brotherhood&n=Napa

what do you think of my gear set up? and my talents choice. my guild currently is downing gruuls every week, and just starting TK.... have any suggestions, or comments, I know my + plus healing is quite high, and my MP5 is a little low, but I would like to hear from the more experienced raiders that might now something that I don`t. Oh and thanks for your time.

#2 Mar 11 2008 at 9:28 AM Rating: Decent
Ok well im not raiding on my pally yet but my friend told me ALOT about the talents and if you are holy raiding heres what you do....

Drop-
Blessed life
Puryfing Power
unyielding faith
Aura master
Improved SoR
Improved Judgment
Benediction
Improved lay on hands

All those should be useless seeing that the fact you are a holy pally in a raid you should never get hit, will never be in the same group as the tank and your auras are useless to them, and you shouldn't be using your judges since you are healing and not meleeing

Now pick up-
Redoubt
Guardians Favor
4 in toughness
Blessing of kings
Shield Specialization
Stoicism
And Improved Concentration Aura

Now its common sense why you should get rid of the top and put the bottom in. My friend is making me go this spec and its pretty good, he has the same thing and his guild is running TK, Hyjal and all the other stuff (Don't know high end game raids :'[ )

Sorry about my spelling and punctuation i suck it =D


Tell if this is good!!

EDIT:
Haha friend pointed this out i dont suck it, i suck at it hahaha sorry

Edited, Mar 11th 2008 1:32pm by Bryanthelion
#3 Mar 11 2008 at 8:12 PM Rating: Decent
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http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents.html?0550300252013053105105024123000300000000000000000000000000000000

That's the build I use when Holy. It's great for when you're Raiding, and is also a viable build for PvP, and the Imp Righteous also helps if you're doing Nightbane.

Gear looks great in my opinion though, but you could always use more Mp/5.
#4 Mar 12 2008 at 12:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Bryanthelion wrote:
All those should be useless seeing that the fact you are a holy pally in a raid you should never get hit, will never be in the same group as the tank and your auras are useless to them, and you shouldn't be using your judges since you are healing and not meleeing


Taken from Dil's sticky:

Quote:
-Aura Mastery > You're gonna be at max range for most fights so any talents that involve range are a good idea.


I don't heal, but I can only assume that since he's seen a lot of raids, there's something to our Auras that make them worthwhile to be sure as many people get as possible ;)

Also a really skilled Holy Paladin can keep a Judgement up on a boss and still do their job quite effectively. So many set bonuses have been made with that in mind, I'd venture to guess Holys Judgeing is "intended". Granted it's not necessary, and sometimes you do want to avoid it, but there's also nothing wrong, generally, with your Holy Paladin keeping up a JoW or JoL, or even a JotC if they specced into it for the 3% crit.
#5 Mar 12 2008 at 4:01 AM Rating: Good
Jungabon's build is good. OP's talents are they are atm are horribly allocated for healing.

Yes your mp5 is low. Best way to increase it without losing spell crit:

a) Go run Onyxia for the 16mp5 trinket and drop a healing trinket. That's the best choice in terms of healing lost for mmp5 gained.
b) Get the 18mp5 trinket from the 2nd to last boss? in Zul'Aman.
c) Drop the ****** Violet Eye rep ring and get another pvp ring with +mp5.
d) The ZA shoulders / badge reward boots both carry huge amounts of mp5 and you could consider those. The t5 gloves are also great in so far that they have mp5 and spellcrit, and they're the best upgrade for you gloves wise. If not, get the Attumen gloves, as they give more +heal and more mp5 if gemmed with +18 healing gems. You lose out on spellcrit though.
#6 Mar 12 2008 at 11:01 AM Rating: Decent
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If he consistently gets a shadow priest in his group, his mp5 is perfectly fine... stacking healing and spell crit is really very viable if you get a shadow priest in your group.
#7 Mar 12 2008 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Heh. With 110 MP/5 fully buffed I ended an Ilhoof fight with 90% mana thanks to having a Shadow Priest. Mmm...Shadow Priests. But in all reality you shouldn't rely on them for mana generation. Otherwise you're f'd when you don't have one.
#8 Mar 13 2008 at 4:41 PM Rating: Decent
I have changed my talent build, putting more into prot, however I still opt to keep the "blessed life " talent, I have seen how it helps me, especially when there is AOE damage, or certain damage attacks thay bosses make agains a person or group. For instance the fight with dragonhawk boss in ZA, when you get hit with the fire breath from the boss, or the fight with malcross,his shadow bolts, the 5th boss in ZA. Or the fight with netherspite, there are place where it don`t help.
As for Imp/normal righteous fury,there are fights where I can`t use it. Such as: netherspite before the beam Phase begins, and nightbane after he lands. As we get further into TK and further I will see the need for even more changes. But Meh for now.
As for shadow priests..... I LOVE THEM.
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