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#1 Mar 07 2008 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
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I was looking at this spec and it puts 3 points in Shield Mastery. All the info about the talent I could find just says "Increases the amount of damage absorbed by your Shield by 30%". Does it do this by increasing your SBV by 30%? If so it's obvious why the spec contains that talent. If not I think I could move those points around if I spec that (which I'm thinking about doing for a specific purpose). Just wondering before I drop the money to respec if that talent does what I think it does.
#2 Mar 07 2008 at 11:37 AM Rating: Decent
In my experience, things generally do exactly what they say. It would say "increases your shield block value by 30%" if that were the case.

anyone able to varify though?
#3 Mar 07 2008 at 2:43 PM Rating: Good
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KDenelor wrote:
anyone able to varify though?


If the question is, does it increase shield slam damage, the answer is yes.
#4 Mar 07 2008 at 11:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Does it increase Shield Slam damage? How? Can you give me some numbers that pooves that this is a fact?
#5 Mar 08 2008 at 6:17 AM Rating: Decent
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anyone able to varify though?


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If the question is, does it increase shield slam damage, the answer is yes.


This made me laugh...seriously. How does absorbing damage (I'm assuming its that thing when you get hit as opposed to when you do the hitting) relate into higher output of damage? Are you serious? or just plain stupid? I am both...whats your excuse numbnuts?
#6 Mar 08 2008 at 12:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Shield Slam gains extra damage from Block Value. The amount of damage your shield absorbs with one block is modified by your Block Value. While the tooltip says "Increases the amount of damage absorbed by your shield by 10/20/30%." it really means "Increases your Block Value by 10/20/30%.".

While this, from one point of view, is exactly the same thing (due to block value being the number for the amount of damage blocked), it's slightly different when you factor in Shield Slam. Mainly because that too is affected by Block value, only damage-wise instead of absorption-wise.

The answer is simply: Yes, Shield Mastery does increase the damage of Shield Slam. Anyone arguing for the opposite has no idea about anything, least of all game mechanics.
#7 Mar 08 2008 at 5:53 PM Rating: Decent
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while i am not sure of the answer, i do have to say that if you're going to make claims you should really cite sources instead of just saying things and let them stand alone.
#8 Mar 08 2008 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Shield mastery DOES increase Shield Block Value. SBV directly increases Shield Slam damage values.

You can test this. Please do. I have.

Next time you are going to respec to prot. Go up the tree, get shield slam. Do not get Shield Mastery or One handed weapon mastery.

Then duel a friendly player. Use shield slam alot. Check your DPS reports for damage values.

Put a point into shield mastery, repeat. You'll do more damage per hit.

Same goes for one handed weapon mastery, it does apply to shield slam damage.
#9 Mar 08 2008 at 9:43 PM Rating: Good
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Or even more simple devious, spec shield slam. Open up your character sheet, and hover over block for your block value. Spec into shield mastery. Magic.
#10 Mar 09 2008 at 12:21 AM Rating: Decent
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This is something I did not know. But now I do :D
#11 Mar 09 2008 at 7:10 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't remember a tooltip for block values being standard for the blizzard UI for warriors. I have tank points, which tells me SBV though. I haven't played since 2.3.2, did they update the tooltip to include SBV on the block mouseover?
#12 Mar 09 2008 at 10:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Yep, they did Devious. If you open your defense panel and hover over block, it will say 'A successful block stops X damage.' There's your block value for you, in an easy to find spot. I was happy with this change, made it so I didn't have to add all the stats up anymore.
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