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I read the faq and stuff but i need advice from the pros on leveling im level 33 and im shadow atm. Is there any spec that might be better so i can level efficiently and be able to heal in instances as i level? I would also like a good spell attack order and what spec to go .
Keep your spec as is... learn to work around Shadowform even though you do not yet have it.
You can heal decently all the way up until Outlands and then you need to make a decision what you want to do, but as a Shadow Priest you can solo extremely well and efficiently.
As for spell cast, Mindblast, SW:P, Flay... 2nd Flay prior to target closing... and then look at mobs health. At this point you are getting wailed on so your choice is hit them with another Mind Blast and finish with wanding to death, or shield and flay them down. You need to experiment to get the right combination for each mob type to conserve Mana, and reduce downtime to drink / eat.
You can heal decently all the way up until Outlands and then you need to make a decision what you want to do, but as a Shadow Priest you can solo extremely well and efficiently.
As for spell cast, Mindblast, SW:P, Flay... 2nd Flay prior to target closing... and then look at mobs health. At this point you are getting wailed on so your choice is hit them with another Mind Blast and finish with wanding to death, or shield and flay them down. You need to experiment to get the right combination for each mob type to conserve Mana, and reduce downtime to drink / eat.
ElChikito wrote:
I read the faq and stuff but i need advice from the pros on leveling im level 33 and im shadow atm. Is there any spec that might be better so i can level efficiently and be able to heal in instances as i level? I would also like a good spell attack order and what spec to go .
* get a good wand
* wear spirit gear (less downtime)
* holy nova > sw:pain > MF > MF > wand to death
L2bandage (let your mana regen between mobs, don't waste it healing yourself)
spec:
5/5 spirit tap
2/2 imp sw:pain
3/3 shadow focus
1/1 mind flay
more shadow, more shadow, more shadow. wand spec is good too.
respec full shadow @ lvl 40.
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I have to agree with Whiskeyduck, work around shadowform once you get it and keep to the shadow tree for a few levels. I'm 53 and pure shadow, taking down mobs 4 levels above me is generally easy. I usually VT, SW:P,Bubble, MB, Flay, Flay at this point. I take NO damage and healing is kinda tough sometimes in a group switching back and forth so most of the time I leave SF off in a group. I have all +dmg/Heal gear so my healing isnt bad and I can keep up with the best of em, but if I get in trouble the SF pops back on. You have a while to decide what you wanna do and respcc is always an option later, so in my opinion if you like to solo, stay shadow and work around the SF.
One other point...Since I've gotten VT I've found it to be a overpriced (mana-wise)DoT that dosent give much mana back. I rarely use it because it never give the payback i expect it to. So, racing to the VT block at the bottom of the talent tree was useless to me, does it get better?
One other point...Since I've gotten VT I've found it to be a overpriced (mana-wise)DoT that dosent give much mana back. I rarely use it because it never give the payback i expect it to. So, racing to the VT block at the bottom of the talent tree was useless to me, does it get better?
VT is bad for soloing, it's more for raiding and dungeons, when others receive mana back as well.
Cardinalsynn wrote:
I have to agree with Whiskeyduck, work around shadowform once you get it and keep to the shadow tree for a few levels. I'm 53 and pure shadow, taking down mobs 4 levels above me is generally easy. I usually VT, SW:P,Bubble, MB, Flay, Flay at this point. I take NO damage and healing is kinda tough sometimes in a group switching back and forth so most of the time I leave SF off in a group. I have all +dmg/Heal gear so my healing isnt bad and I can keep up with the best of em, but if I get in trouble the SF pops back on. You have a while to decide what you wanna do and respcc is always an option later, so in my opinion if you like to solo, stay shadow and work around the SF.
One other point...Since I've gotten VT I've found it to be a overpriced (mana-wise)DoT that dosent give much mana back. I rarely use it because it never give the payback i expect it to. So, racing to the VT block at the bottom of the talent tree was useless to me, does it get better?
One other point...Since I've gotten VT I've found it to be a overpriced (mana-wise)DoT that dosent give much mana back. I rarely use it because it never give the payback i expect it to. So, racing to the VT block at the bottom of the talent tree was useless to me, does it get better?
VT is a group/raid talent. It's there to give your teammates mana. I never use it soloing. If you stay out of SF in a group and you're not the main healer, you're a terrible priest. SF adds a ton more dmg and in turn returns more hp/mana through VE and VT.
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Posted: Mar 10 2008 at 2:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I beg to differ hate-monger (of course there's always a dipstick in the crowd) I will go either way as far as healing/ dmg regularly and have never had a complaint. Now, if I am NOT considered the healer in the group then I will stay SF, suck health and mana out of the mobbies and give it back to my friends. However, sometimes slipping in and out of SF gets a bit tedious if you have to be the main healer in certain situations. Therefore, no matter what you say, I have the responsibility to keep my party alive if I can, while you sit back and watch em die so you can blast. As far as I'm concerned, YOU are an irrisponsible little boy who has no concept of comeradery. It's people like you who give the game a bad name...so concerned with specs and crap you don't even enjoy the game in itself, or the people in it. So take your 16 year old pudgy twinkie eating *** outside and let the people who WANT to play the game for FUN play it. Have a nice day.
Now now, no need for insults. He was saying if you're not healing, you should stay in shadowform, generally this holds true. Obviously there are exceptions (main healer is having trouble, too much damage, healer oom etc.) but if you're dps'ing (primarily) you will want to do the most dps you can and by that you should stay in sf.
Generally I stay in shadow unless the healer dies then I (try) and take over till the fight is done with, rez the healer, pop back into shadow and carry on.
Generally I stay in shadow unless the healer dies then I (try) and take over till the fight is done with, rez the healer, pop back into shadow and carry on.
Cardinalsynn wrote:
I beg to differ hate-monger (of course there's always a dipstick in the crowd) I will go either way as far as healing/ dmg regularly and have never had a complaint. Now, if I am NOT considered the healer in the group then I will stay SF, suck health and mana out of the mobbies and give it back to my friends. However, sometimes slipping in and out of SF gets a bit tedious if you have to be the main healer in certain situations. Therefore, no matter what you say, I have the responsibility to keep my party alive if I can, while you sit back and watch em die so you can blast. As far as I'm concerned, YOU are an irrisponsible little boy who has no concept of comeradery. It's people like you who give the game a bad name...so concerned with specs and crap you don't even enjoy the game in itself, or the people in it. So take your 16 year old pudgy twinkie eating *** outside and let the people who WANT to play the game for FUN play it. Have a nice day.
Listen, ******** next time you go parading your prissy little immature rant you should actually read what I wrote. You sure make a lot of assumptions there, pudgy pie-hole stuffer.
Let's take a look at what I wrote and break it down for your tit-sized brain.
I wrote:
VT is a group/raid talent. It's there to give your teammates mana. I never use it soloing. If you stay out of SF in a group and you're not the main healer, you're a terrible priest. SF adds a ton more dmg and in turn returns more hp/mana through VE and VT.
Now VT is a group talent. It returns mana to you and your teammates based on your damage. Now I don't think this is what your nubbly little *** is getting all excited about.
Let's move onto the next part;
I wrote:
If you stay out of SF in a group and you're not the main healer, you're a terrible priest.
Now I think you got your panties in a bunch rather quick, Suzy. Why would a shadow priest stay out of shadowform in a group? Only when they're the main healer. Now nowhere did I say that a shadow priest shouldn't off-heal when needed.
You took my statement rather personal. Does that mean you're a terrible spriest? If you stay out of shadowform as a shadow spec priest and are not the main healer, you are without a doubt a terrible spriest. You're dropping 15% of the damage you should be doing. 15% less mana and health from Vampiric returns.
ElChikito wrote:
I read the faq and stuff but i need advice from the pros on leveling im level 33 and im shadow atm. Is there any spec that might be better so i can level efficiently and be able to heal in instances as i level? I would also like a good spell attack order and what spec to go .
Though it's conventional wisdom that Shadow is the fastest leveling spec, you may find that leveling as Discipline will be pretty fast as well. Powerful wand, strong buffs, efficient shield, mana regeneration. Discipline does not kill as fast as Shadow while leveling, but will help cut downtime before a Shadow Priest hits Shadowform. Moreover, the mana regeneration helps with being a healer in groups.
But shadow is still probably 'better'.
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Shadow = best leveling spec.
I switched to holy/disc a few times during my time as a priest. Once at 45 to try something new (I switched back in a week). Once at 60 to raid (pre-bc). Then again at 70 after I had finished most of the outland quests and was back to raiding. While I was shadow I didn't have too problems healing 5 man non-heroic dungeons. The important thing to remember is when you get to outland is to have a 'healing' set and a 'dps' set. This can make a huge difference and should take you to the point where you can select one or the other for endgame content.
If you're thinking about switching just respec and try it out for a few levels. If you find its more fun great. If its tedious and boring then switch back. Outland has added so much inflation to the world of warcraft that respeccing is a lot more of a viable option.
The important thing to remember for leveling is that not all shadow talents are created equal. Some are much better for pve solo, pvp, or pve group. For leveling you'll definitely want 5/5 in spirit tap and mind flay. Assuming you put all your points in shadow you're very close to Darkness and then a few more levels to shadowform. Both of these talents together will add a lot to your dps and should speed things up nicely.
Edited, Mar 10th 2008 10:43pm by Mehdik
I switched to holy/disc a few times during my time as a priest. Once at 45 to try something new (I switched back in a week). Once at 60 to raid (pre-bc). Then again at 70 after I had finished most of the outland quests and was back to raiding. While I was shadow I didn't have too problems healing 5 man non-heroic dungeons. The important thing to remember is when you get to outland is to have a 'healing' set and a 'dps' set. This can make a huge difference and should take you to the point where you can select one or the other for endgame content.
If you're thinking about switching just respec and try it out for a few levels. If you find its more fun great. If its tedious and boring then switch back. Outland has added so much inflation to the world of warcraft that respeccing is a lot more of a viable option.
The important thing to remember for leveling is that not all shadow talents are created equal. Some are much better for pve solo, pvp, or pve group. For leveling you'll definitely want 5/5 in spirit tap and mind flay. Assuming you put all your points in shadow you're very close to Darkness and then a few more levels to shadowform. Both of these talents together will add a lot to your dps and should speed things up nicely.
Edited, Mar 10th 2008 10:43pm by Mehdik
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I know people will probably think I'm crazy when I say this since everyone suggests Shadow until Outlands for leveling; but I just switched from Shadow to Holy at level 48 Priest. I find that I can still solo quest just fine; do decent damage, priest wise, lol; it just takes a bit longer.
Coming from another game where I played strictly support healing all the way to 75; I think my heart is in being the best support/healer I can and at this point in my journey I can concentrate more on sharpening my role before getting to higher levels.
Other than having to *drink* more often between fights while in solo mode, I am enjoying it alot more.
Coming from another game where I played strictly support healing all the way to 75; I think my heart is in being the best support/healer I can and at this point in my journey I can concentrate more on sharpening my role before getting to higher levels.
Other than having to *drink* more often between fights while in solo mode, I am enjoying it alot more.
Kassanaomi wrote:
I know people will probably think I'm crazy when I say this since everyone suggests Shadow until Outlands for leveling; but I just switched from Shadow to Holy at level 48 Priest. I find that I can still solo quest just fine; do decent damage, priest wise, lol; it just takes a bit longer.
Other than having to *drink* more often between fights while in solo mode, I am enjoying it alot more.
Other than having to *drink* more often between fights while in solo mode, I am enjoying it alot more.
Good to hear! I had suspected that leveling Holy as a priest wasn't as bad as leveling Holy as a paladin (or leveling Resto as a shaman. *shudder*) But I didn't think it was time for me to level a third priest...
How much do you have to drink as a leveling Holy Priest? Between how many fights?
When I leveled my priest, I went deep enough in shadow to get mindflay. After that, it was all disc. I found it to be extremely easy to level. Currently disc/holy and healing kara. Probably going to switch to fully holy soon.
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How much do you have to drink as a leveling Holy Priest? Between how many fights?
It depends on how many levels above me the mobs are; and sometimes because I don't *think* about what I'm doing, I overuse my spells and find that I'm resting pretty often.
Actually, I find that I hardly ever have to heal myself; it's a mana issue for me mostly.
I have my wand skill up which helps when my mana gets low. I guess I drink/rest couple, two or three fights if I use my head, don't panic when mana gets low and play my role right haha.....otherwise when trouble starts, I just [psychic scream] and run away! :P
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