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#1 Mar 02 2008 at 7:05 PM Rating: Decent
I'm BM spec and I just got the abacus today and its pretty pimp, but I had another hunter tout the hourglass from black morass... I'm using the bloodlust brooch as my other trinket either way, so what's your opinion on the abacus vs the hourglass?
#2 Mar 02 2008 at 7:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I've never used the abacus, so I don't know if it speeds up your Steady Shot cast time. If it does, that's really schweet. If you don't use the 1:1 shot rotation macro, I can kinda see it messing up your timing, but if you do use one, it should be excellent.

Personally, I use the hourglass, and it's okay. I'm using a 3.10 speed crossbow because I don't have wolfslayer yet. I've seen BBW at least 4 times now, and he must not like my leet running skills, because he won't drop my gun! But even with my slow speed, it procs pretty often.
#3 Mar 02 2008 at 8:16 PM Rating: Good
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If you're BM I would suspect it depends on your wep. If you're using Wolfslayer's, or something close in speed, then the abacus won't do you a whole lot of good since you'll be bashing your head against the GCD even before haste. BM with a slower weapon, or MM might get more out of abacus. I'd suspect that other Survival hunters will go with the abacus for the crit like I did.
#4 Mar 02 2008 at 9:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I have both of these trinkets and prefer the hourglass personally coupled with the blood lust brooch... recently BM spec with sunfurry bow I think... It does proc alot and I also like not having to manage the timer on the trinket,,, It just does it's thing and I pew pew away 'til somethings dead. Havn't noticed any clippeng either.
#5 Mar 04 2008 at 1:54 PM Rating: Decent
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As said by others: Depends on your speed. If you've got a +2.9 weapon: Abacus. If you've got a 2.7 weapon (teh utlimate wepon spead!): Hourglass.

Also, if you're forgetful you might want to use the Hourglass either way, since it doesn't need activation. If you're pr0 and hardc0re and always remember your CD's, Abacus is fine.
#6 Mar 04 2008 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Hourglass for sure.
If you got a slow weapon just do a 1:1.5 rotation.
#7 Mar 05 2008 at 1:18 AM Rating: Good
Abacus is crap when compared with any decent trinket, and this does not depend on your weapon speed. Just don't use it.
Uptime is only 1/12 which is way to short.
Hourglass is a lot better, especially for a BM hunter who really likes this additional crit and the AP from the proc.
Haste is not really good for BMs (passive haste is nice if you have a too slow weapon, proc haste is still not good for BMs) as they already have a nice 1:1 rotation.
If you have a slow weapon and want to use abacus because of this you basically have a good speed 1/12th of the time while having a non-optimal weapon speed 11/12th of the time. Just go for a weapon with nice speed (~2.6-2.7; 2.9 with some passive haste gear is also ok).
If you have a decently fast weapon the abacus will only be worse. With a lot of additional haste you have to either switch to just auto-shotting for 10 seconds or to clip your autos when you try to insert steady shots. In both ways you won't get a lot of extra DPS, if you get any extra DPS at all.

#8 Mar 05 2008 at 7:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes people, listen to the BT-farming german ******* of a hunter ;P
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