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Heroics - How to know when you're all grows upFollow

#1 Feb 29 2008 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good
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There is a lot of good amount of available info on when your stats are good enough for Kara, Gruul, and other raids. HP, hit, etc are all pretty easy to figure out for these, thankfully.

Last night in a 5man we were discussing min. req. +def, HP, and armor to tank heroic runs. Thought that I should look up some rogue-specific info on that and can't seem to find much.

My basic question is: At what point of the regular progression are heroics appropriate? I would suppose somewhere between Kara and BT but that's only a vague guesstimation. Any suggestions?


Also, anecdotes/tales of woe are always good.

Thanks in advance.
#2 Feb 29 2008 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
Another issue is it depends on the heroic. Some are pretty easy and some are super-de-duper hard.
#3 Feb 29 2008 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
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I did heroics on my druid before I went to kara, so it's easily doable with prekara gear.

EDIT: I would really wait with arca though - that's a toughy.

Edited, Feb 29th 2008 6:07pm by krqllebqlle
#4 Feb 29 2008 at 4:23 PM Rating: Good
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I'll probably try again at around the same time I'm running (or about to run) Kara, after wrapping up the assination set (with s1 weapons). Seems like a good place to really try it.

The consensus last night in the discussion was that UB was the "easiest" heroic. I assumed the heroics would follow the progression of the regulars. Making Ramps the first one, then BF and onward.

Any thoughts?

Thanks again,
#5 Feb 29 2008 at 7:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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The full assassination set is pretty terrible overall.

Horrible set bonuses and very little hit.

You can get much better pieces of gear for each individual slot and not give up anything for not getting the set bonus.

I would actually recommend 2 pieces of Wastewalker for the 35 jit set bonus.

Other than that I would say 150 hit rating, 1300 AP, 20% to crit to start heroics should do just fine
#6 Feb 29 2008 at 10:06 PM Rating: Decent
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all 68+ blues meant for rogues is plenty good, throw in s1 weapons and your in line

as long as you know the instance your doing, getting cleaved for 1-hit-kill doesnt impress anyone... so less gear ya got, the more knowledge u need

heroics were meant to gear for kara, or as an alternative imo
#7 Feb 29 2008 at 11:33 PM Rating: Good
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Botanica also is quite easy, not much different from normal. 5 badges is always nice, and 2 from the daily even nicer.
#8 Feb 29 2008 at 11:47 PM Rating: Good
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If you can still get a significant amount of upgrades from normal level 70 instances, you're probably not ready for most heroics.

As far as instances like Underbog, Slave Pens, and Mechanar, the best way to see is to run them. Just make sure to bring a good tank, because grabbing agro in most heroics usually means you're getting one-shot, at least until you get some better gear.
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