Q)Who gets credit for aura damage?Follow

the person getting hit. just like if a shammy has the little healing thing when you get hit you get healed or a priest they have it also. it counts as you healed so you get threat from the heal.

auras and judgements act as normal buffs and debuffs respectively. any action made or received counts toward the instigator.

How'd you guess?! lol Actually it wasn't so much by my tank as other DPS'ers in the party. That and I noticed allot of people who down pallys don't realize just how much of a buff they receive by their paladin party members. I had a discussion with my tank about ret-pally dps and I don't think he realizes the buffs & auras we provide increase his DSP/Armor as well. I assumed it did but wanted to make sure. But I guess since he's a warrior, he's not expected to know math.



Edited, Mar 5th 2008 4:33pm by ChanceTouchstone

nope goes to the person just like druids thorns gives the person who has it on them the threat otherwise healing druids and pallies would never have a ds on anyone. not to mention peeps would scream op if we had threat from mobs hitting others.

Why use Ret if your Ret? That sounds a bit silly but perhaps you know something I don't. I'm not a total noob but I'll admit I'm still learning and trying new tactics so....

Actually, I have trouble deciding between Auras and switch them continuously depending on the situation (of course).
I've noticed all lot of utility in the Devotion Aura fighting tough mobs or BG fighting in large groups.
Sanctity Aura aura is good along side other paladins or 1on1 PVP.
But Ret, I really just use the Ret aura raiding in weaker dungeons where the tank is pretty safe from any real threat or damage. Just helps kill the mobs quicker. Or even solo-questing when I get a large mob on ME that does physical damage I'll switch to Ret, throw up consecration and use my lil AOE trinket to poison them all to get the most AOE damage I can. Hell, I even throw in a stick of EZ-Throw DynamiteII for a lil extra kick now & then. lol thats more for fun tho.lol
Sometimes in AlteracValley I'll do a Kamikaze run when I find myself surounded by about 10+ Horde and I'm all alone. I'll throw up my bubble and crank out as much AOE dmg, ret aura, explosives, and finally stuns as possible before they take me down. Thats when I know I'm going down. That rarely gets the final blow but you'll be surprised how much 1 paladin kamikaze can delay a large group like that and by the Alliance a few seconds to regroup. ONE FOR THE TEAM!

Not to nitpick excessively, but there are a handful of apparent misconceptions in your most recent post.

Devotion Aura has nothing to do with the toughness of the mobs hitting you. If a tank needs devotion aura to tank, leave your group ASAP and don't let the portal hit you on the way out. It does almost nothing for a mail/plate-wearing class in your group. The only time I'll un-reluctantly put up Devo Aura is when a 'lock or mage is AOE-tanking on a particular boss or pull.

In BGs you do not fight "in large groups" -- you fight in a party of five just like every other party. There's no spillover of your aura to people outside your party. Don't let the number of friendlies not in your immediate party influence your aura selection.

FYI, when you are bubbled, your Ret Aura does nada. If an enemy's not hitting you, no damage is reflected to it.

IMO, kamikaze attacks are silly. If you face one vs ten, irritate them (consecrate, hammer of justice, etc.), bubble and RUN! (You have Pursuit of Justice, right?) I just love it when a half dozen Horde feel that primitive urge to chase my sorry soon-to-expire-from-DoTs carcass from Lumber Mill down to the road leading to Blacksmith. Dragging the enemy away from the point they're supposed to defend is one way you can help your team when you have no individual chance of survival.

Sanctity Aura should be the best aura in most situations for improving your overall performance, but I'm sure the retlords here will clarify the appropriate exceptions. Experimenting is good, and with time you eventually figure out what works best for you (and hopefully understand why).

same thing yep

Sanctity aura is a must if you're grping with a tankadin. The increase to threat makes them much more mana efficient. Also may be able to give dps real buffs instead of salvation because of the increased threat.

Okay, maybe I missed something about the Sanctity aura too... The description says "Increases Holy damage done by party members within 30 yards by 10%." But if theirs no other paladins or priests in the party, it only benefits me right? For instance, a warrior doesn't do holy damage so whats it do for him? Help with healing him or something? Anything? If not, then thats a lame aura for my party. If it does SOMETHING then I can agree, its probably the most useful.


F.Y.I.
I ordered ALL the WOW Guides from amazon. I'm tired of misleading tool tips.Damn you uninformative tool tips! Damn you!

Sanctity Aura by itself is only for Ret Paladins and lawlSmite Priests. The Improved talents makes it good for everyone doing damage, in your group that is.

Chances are your imp sanctity aura will net more damage than ret aura on a tank. 2% is more significant than you think.

For example, ive had several experiences where a boss will die with 1-2% HP left. well, if the dpsers did 2% more damage it would be dead.

Ok ok, this is helpful guys thanks! =)

but I still think Ret aura CAN add up to more damage in that situation.

Okay, this is off the top of my head and I'm guessing at some of this so... I'll post the equation and you guys correct it for me.

Imp Santity Aura (Guessing 400 is a decent DPS for the average lvl70. I don't know)
400 dps X 5 players = 2000 dps X 2% = +40dps

VS:

Imp Ret (Guessing: I really have NO idea what the average hits per sec someone would do. This is where I really need correcting)
(ImpRet = 26 + 50% = 39dmg)
5 attackers hit tank once every 3 seconds
5 hits X 39dmg = 195 dmg / 3sec = +65dps

Now, I don't know... Average player DPS may be lower than 400 and enemys probably average hitting more than once every 3 seconds so that would imply an even larger increase in damage using the ret aura. But I'm open for correcton. OBVIOUSLY my math on that was kind of a guess. No to mention misses etc... but still. I'll let the "experts" pick that one apart for me. =)


Edited, Mar 6th 2008 6:30pm by ChanceTouchstone

LMAO
Funny! But I'm not buying that. hehehe