the new 17/44Follow

i was trolling a bit over at EJ and they were talking about the possible merit of a 26/35 raid build (with death wish and sword spec. btw the consensus was that it was nutty especially during execute phase, but couldn't trump 17/44), and was just thinking about WotLK and the increased level cap. i'm thinking this would be the new dps build, barring any new awesome talents. we get death wish goodness back, extra attack procs from sword spec, and four more seconds of Rexecute. it's practically begging for a nerf, i can't wait for all the rogues to start complaining again when we hit 80.

Edited, Feb 27th 2008 9:41am by fromanthebarbarian

/banghead

thanks for pointing that out. i usually put just enough in precision to get 9% hit and don't really prioritize it in my builds. adding another 3% hit for me in my current build would add another ~9 dps to my dps, unfortunately my latest WWS for a VR kill has expired so i don't have a recent execute dps figure to compare that against. must include this in future calculations....

You seem to forget that with level 80 comes more talents deeper in the tree. Saying what *the* new build will be is pointless, because there will be new points we have to consider but that we don't know yet.

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Edited, Feb 27th 2008 2:10pm by fromanthebarbarian

Edited, Feb 27th 2008 2:11pm by fromanthebarbarian

The most logical step is probably going to drop points in Arms, actually. There's ~10 wasted points between Imp. HS and Impale, and while Death Wish/Specs are nice if there's anything better deeper in Fury they're probably toast.

Also, if you can push 0/41/30 then 1H Spec is obscenely good.

By improve improved rend, you also mean improve rend itself, right? :P

/Agree with RP. However, Focused Rage might be more beneficial than Rampage (maybe not, but who knows)

We don't know what tier 10 and 11 talents they'll add though. However, if anything's linked to Endless Rage I'm skippin' it...

take the two points out of imp execute and put them into weapon mastery. btw, this thread is speculation towards the new pve dps build, not your pvp build.

Akando, don't try to fit Endless Rage or Imp. MS into your builds. It's not a good combo in either theory nor practice, and you'll be loosing a lot of DPS. Also, try not to spread misinformation; Flurry is one of the highest DPS talents a warrior can get.

PvP build: The bad talents in the arms tree are Endless Rage, Imp. Blood Frenzy, Imp. Rend and Imp. Heroic Strike. To a lesser extent Imp. MS, mainly because it's too little improvement for too many points. For an all-out PvP build you might want Iron Will, and Deflection is helpful no matter your spec.

In the fury tree there's Blood Craze being slightly unmotivated, since the 2nd more popular PvP stat now makes you get critted less. In addition to its inferiority and inefficiency (based on points spent in talent, and talent mechanic), it makes a very bad talent to spec. And honestly, get Imp. Slam and Flurry...

Much better alternative, minor changes reserved.



PvE build: Again, poor attempt. The talents are mostly the same, and since that's so you'll see that most of the previous points still hold. 2/5 in Imp. Demo. Shout is enough to cap AP reduc for bosses. Also, Mace spec is the least efficient weapon spec for PvE. In addition to that, the arms tree is vastly inferior to the fury tree for PvE DPS, save for one talent; namely Blood Frenzy. And that's only if your raid is heavy on melee DPS.

Slightly better Arms build, minor changes reserved.

Slightly better fury build, minor changes reserved.



Tanking build: Well, you've picked Blood Craze for a role that assumes you're un-crittable. That's about the stupidest thing imaginable. That and not getting Deflection and Imp. TC... very, very bad.

This has all the key talents in it. There are lots of variations around the fill-out points, but otherwise this is very much a cookie cutter spec for tanking.



The End.

Yeah go on... have a life. I don't miss mine.