I just read on a seperate forum that bears took a nerf to their damage to further degrade feral, is this true? i was looking forward(currently in the 40s) to being a bear tank and still be able to do some damage, mainly in pve, when a prot warrior cant.
I have a tendancy to read a lot on forums, i still consider myself very new(even though i have a level 67 shaman ,i dont think i have anywhere near the amount of expertise on the various other classes that i should), i try to become informed as much as possible. So i read alot, some of the stuff i read is outdated. It is sometimes hard to cypher through the information that is still in effect or has been changed.
So do druid tanks still do quite a bit of damage(considering that they are tanks) or not?
oh, and i hear a lot of hoopla about how druids cannot tank end game, does this include heriocs or are they just debating about raids and what not?
Edited, Feb 25th 2008 10:12am by Lowgo
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While it is true that bears took a damage nerf, it was only done so that bears wouldn't be so over powered in pvp. In pve you switch to cat form when you wan't to dps anyway. Even in bear form and tanking gear, we do however still do more damage than a protection warrior.
In end game a druid is a perfectly viable tank, but since you usually bring a protection warrior for 25 man raids anyway, and the warrior does ****** damage compared to the druid, the druid will almost always be off tank/dps and the warrior will be main tank. In threat sensitive fights I would choose a druid tank over a warrior, because druids generate more threat than warriors.
In end game a druid is a perfectly viable tank, but since you usually bring a protection warrior for 25 man raids anyway, and the warrior does ****** damage compared to the druid, the druid will almost always be off tank/dps and the warrior will be main tank. In threat sensitive fights I would choose a druid tank over a warrior, because druids generate more threat than warriors.
DKDruid wrote:
While it is true that bears took a damage nerf, it was only done so that bears wouldn't be so over powered in pvp.
Wait, what's the nerf you're talking about? I actually thought the changes would amount to a damage buff, at least in PvE.
The two changes to bear form combat are:
"Mangle (Bear) now properly triggers a 1.5 second global cooldown, increased from 1.0."
"Lacerate: This ability now deals additional damage based on the attack power of the Druid."
My tanking technique is generally to get Mangle on my main target for quick damage, stack 5 Lacerates on them, and keep Mangle refreshed for the debuff. At some point I hit my target #2 with a Lacerate or two to start building aggro. I'll also be swiping to keep additional mobs on me through healer threat. Amidst all that, if I've got rage to burn, I'll spam Mangles and Mauls.
So damage is being increased on the attack I use the most, and the cooldown on a less frequently used attack is increasing by a half-second that I don't think will matter much.
Lowgo wrote:
So do druid tanks still do quite a bit of damage(considering that they are tanks) or not?
The damage advantage we have as feral druids is that with one click (assuming a gear swap addon and out-of-combat status) we can turn from a virtually indestructible prot warrior into an uber-deadly rogue. Or we can wear our DPS gear in bear form to be a light duty high damage tank, or wear our tank gear in cat form (I guess) to be a heavy duty lower damage cat.
Lowgo wrote:
oh, and i hear a lot of hoopla about how druids cannot tank end game, does this include heriocs or are they just debating about raids and what not?
When I tank heroics, I do avg of 350 dps on my druid. when in raids I compare myself to prot warriors. I do double their dps in bear. Usually do heroic pugs and its not rare for me to out dmg dps* classes, or stay close to them in total dmg dealt. While those dps classes are a disgrace but non the less, bear dmg is quite respectable.
fun facts, 70% of "DPS" warriors I met, I outdamaged as tank. So I never invite dps warrior if I am making group, unless I know them.
fun facts, 70% of "DPS" warriors I met, I outdamaged as tank. So I never invite dps warrior if I am making group, unless I know them.
Feral Druids are the best. There is a nice feeling being the MT - an undeserved feeling of importance :) Or if you are OT, you get variety and are able to do all sorts of things in the raid. If you are not tanking at all you get to go all out and show people how much DPS a druid can do.
Best of all, if you are DPS'ing with a feral tank, you don't even have to mangle and your damage is even better.
Basically, we can't lose no matter what our role in the raid!
Best of all, if you are DPS'ing with a feral tank, you don't even have to mangle and your damage is even better.
Basically, we can't lose no matter what our role in the raid!
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