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#1 Feb 21 2008 at 6:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Greetings! Long time reader, first time poster. Just a quick question to get some feedback on this spec I plan on taking when I hit level 58. I plan to be a 100% prot tanking paladin as I already have a 70 holy paladin and that sure is boring. I also plan to likely run a lot of instances in outlands in addition to questing.

I may not actually respec till 60, in which case 2 points will go into the improved holy shield and each level after that will be Ardent Defender, Combat Expertise, and Avenger shield talents to finish up prot tree.

I'd like to keep pursuit of justice since I've leveled this far with it, it'll be painful to lose 15% speed plus getting around faster will get me to experience faster.

Lastly! What's my main source of damage as a leveling prot tank when i'm not instancing? Just straight attack? Spam holy shield? hit auto attack and go get some coffee? Any input is delicious.

Thanks,

PROT Leveling Build for 58+ - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZVotIx0zRLoZVbx0hb
#2 Feb 21 2008 at 8:02 PM Rating: Decent
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The Captian said this was a great one for tanking instances and I use it to grind away outside too. Works pretty well.

Main source of damage? I'd grab a bottle of rum instead of coffee.... but choice of drink is optional.
Your holy damage is probally your main source (is mine as of yet and I love my new sword!!)
Or grab a dps'n fool running around in your area (spam general chat). There is usually someone looking to make their quests go quicker, and a dps loves a tank. Almost as good as a healer... as in either way they don't take damage. I try by offering first to help and usually they will return the favor.

GL
#3 Feb 22 2008 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
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personally, I'm in love with Reckoning and will always have it....ALWAYS (mind you that I am not a raider, never have and probably never will).

So personally, I am going for:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents.html?0000000000000000000005005133500001520215510500000000000000000000

I'm only 45 now.
#4 Feb 22 2008 at 10:24 AM Rating: Good
Actually, this is my instance tanking build in the FAQ. The build you posted isn't any of my builds so.. I'm not sure where you got that.
#5 Feb 22 2008 at 10:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Private messages. Love the build though, and it works like a charm.
#6 Feb 22 2008 at 4:39 PM Rating: Decent
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It almost seems like "this" is the foundation of a common Prot build (PVE). The last 5 points going to more situational (aka; preference) talents.

NOTE: Spell Warding is not a make-or-break talent. I have it, and since it's a passive ability (you will not see "Spell Warding Absorbs XXXX Damage") can't say I "notice" it, but if I were to add up ALL the damage I've taken from spells since I've had the talent, then figure that as only 96% of the damage, I'm sure the extra 4% "not received" would be large. But I can say, that this has never "saved" my groups (or my own) butt. Ardent Defender takes the trophy for that.

Precision: A very good solid talent. I would recommend taking 2/3 precision if you go with 5/5 Reckoning & ditch Spell Warding. This will help you all around, solo & group tanking. Be warned though, I can not speak for Raiding, as I have never tanked in a Raid at Lv70. But for me, Precision is very helpful with all other content. I will be taking this again over Spell Warding when I re-spec, if still specing for protection.

PoJ: Similar to Spell Warding, except you get an extra travel buff. Very nice if you are pre-Lv62, but unless spell damage is a primary concern I would ditch this when you get Crusader Aura as the effects do not stack and running 15% faster is no Intercept, so big deal. Hardest part will be adjusting to slower run speed... which is not hard at all. Plus there are other ways to increase run speed (that again, will not stack with PoJ), but there may not be any other way to increase play performance other than the talents you will take besides this one. Pre-Lv62, and especially pre-Lv60? yes, the speed buff (I feel) is huge while questing.

Imp. JotC: Don't knock this one. Often over looked, but when you have a group, +3% chance to crit from ALL players attacking the target adds up. Don't view this talent as a source of major damage for soloing, this is more for group situations when you're prot spec.

Imp. Judgement: Nice talent, This will increase damage & your probability that Judgement will be active to spike threat after a taunt (hit or miss) or any other time someone pulls agro. Talent with also two benefits, +damage & increase to tank effectiveness. I feel this pairs very nicely with Imp. SotC. The downfall with that combo... you will be giving up Reckoning.

Prot buld at 60: with PoJ. Make sure you have some heavy +stam gear on you and you will be fine tanking the early outland runs. Don't expect to clear the final boss in Ramparts (the Rider & Drake... forget names) without an over leveled/geared healer... no matter what your spec is.

Build at Lv62: with crusader aura. This is how I would do it if I was leveling all over again. With crusader aura & just about to break into the tougher outland dungeons, you will want stamina as a best friend. The closer to 70 you get, the more avoidance you'll want. This is why +5% to parry isn't a "huge" deal at 62... but to time it for 5/5 when you hit 70 seems perfect. Considering if you quest solo, you do not want to give up Precision & Reckoning. Killing solo is slow enough... keep what damage you can get -.-

Just my perspective on how to talent levels post 60. Others may have better advice.


Fifemoo wrote:
Lastly! What's my main source of damage as a leveling prot tank when i'm not instancing? Just straight attack? Spam holy shield? hit auto attack and go get some coffee? Any input is delicious.


Mix of +spell damage and white damage. Your primary source of "threat" is Holy damage... so +spell damage increases threat control. But if you find a good DPS 1-hander, grab that & play with SoR/SoV to decide which seems to kill faster. For me, I use AS+JotC+SoR+JoR+HS when I just want to kill fast & drinks are not a problem. Those times a good +spell damage weapon is best. But most of the time I hate drinking my gold away, so I use JoW+SoV+JoV+HS and a DPS 1-hander. The DPS 1-hander seems to kill fastest when not spamming my mana away.

All preference, just need to toy with it & see what you enjoy most.



Kz

Edited, Feb 22nd 2008 6:49pm by Killzon
#7 Feb 22 2008 at 4:52 PM Rating: Good
I said to not grab reckoning if you were raiding, which you aren't. The build I posted here and in the faq is the one I recommend for starting out once you hit 70.
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