WSR drops, who would you give it to?Follow

What? Afraid of getting stuck in his throat?

I ain't keeping you from doing anything. You, by pushing those buttons on the Keyboard and Mouse, are keeping yourself from doing your paper. So, do yourself a favor and take yourself out back and beat yourself for being a bad boy and not doing your homework.

Maybe... or maybe by doing it yourself you are saving me the trouble and I might have been able to warp your twisted little mind into doing it for me since I came up with so logical of an explanation it even confused me?

ehem... the thread has been de railed you are not allowed to discuss posted topic but must discuss the topic of the derailment

Supise me

lol not everyone will like bm spec i had a friend that just back to mm because he got the sunfury he likes mm better i like bm even if it gets debuffed to hell i always be bm spec

I guess some people like to see bigger individual hits, and others like better DPS in the long run :)

Since no one explained it to you and the convo carried on, I'll explain it as simply as possible.

It's better than Sunfury for a BM hunter because of it's attack speed. The attack speed of the gun allows for a perfect 1:1 shot rotation, where the sunfury has a little more down time between your steady and your suto, which lowers the DPS.

You could try to increase the attack speed of the bow with haste rating, but I don't know how much stuff is out there that gives + haste, I know a head and hand enchant, don't think there are gems that give haste. But, ultimately what you would be doing is giving up other vital stats to increase your attack speed to try to get you where you would be if you just used the WSR instead.

Oh, and thanks for explaining the speed thingy... While I still can't see what big impact 0.2 sec would be before haste, I suppose the extra AP and AGI won't matter the world either...

Anyone can give their opinion where "Dan Santanos Famous Hunting Rifle" compare to the weapons we've been talking about on this thread...for a BM hunter :)

The difference between attack speed is 0.2 seconds works out slightly different when you take the haste rating into effect, but even then it makes a difference.

WSR 2.7 attack speed with serpents swiftness and 15% haste from quiver works out to 1.96 seconds attack speed.

Sunfury 2.9 attack speed works out to 2.10 seconds.

That is only a difference of 0.14 seconds, but you have to take that over an 8 minute boss fight.

In a perfect 8 minute fight(no moving, no stopping 9 shadowpriests keeping your mana at 100% lol) WSR gets out 244 full rotations, while the sunfury only gets out 228 full rotations, a difference of 16 autoshots and 16 steady shots.

To look at it from a different perspective, let's say with the WSR you do 534 damage with your auto and 597 with your steady. With the sunfury you auto 585 and 599 with steady(these damage numbers aren't made up by the way, there were attained using my toons gear and the sandbox website linked in my sig, the only difference was the gun vs bow). A crit chance of 20%. With the WSR you do a total of 346,502 damage(196 reg auto & steady shots, and 48 auto & steady crits @ 230% damage). Now the Sunfury would do a total of 339,162.

That's a difference of only 7000 total damage. However, notice I said in a perfect 8 minute fight. With that in mind, that 7000 damage difference will start to increase the more moving around you have to do in a fight, because the WSRs quicker attack speed will get you more and more full rotations the more you have to move when compared to the Sunfury Bow.

Good points all of them Synn.

Oh, and Steelhawk Crossbow is one of the best ranged weapons available to DW warriors in kara.

You're assuming it's a DPS warrior when the poll doesn't specify. But you have a valid point, so let's do it this way:

Prot Warrior: Gyro-Balanced > WSR
Fury Warrior: Steelhawk > WSR (for the hit rating)
Arms Warrior: WSR isn't a bad option

Even so, for rogues or warriors we're talking about a few stat points difference. For hunters, the difference between WSR and the other Kara options is more significant. I still say give it to the non-BM and hope he respecs some day (or force him to, whatever).